I'm glad it resolved the issue for you, I haven't done it yet but I might spend some time doing it now I have a week or two to wait for HMRC and DVLA.

I'm still going on about this over here


http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/foru...php?tid=197406

Looks like the system is going to be reviewed to deal with this madness.

How naive of me the madness will continue! I think the NOVA document section on restored or rebuilt cars has been badly written and is now being applied to vehicles like mine but I have persevered with the NOVA/HMRC/PTU/WHATEVER and although my car isn't an import (ok don't get me started) it is now on the NOVA database for the DVLA to check and see that there is indeed no import tax or duty due on my car. :confused: Just waiting now of the DVLA. :D

Girl dealing with my application is off sick so nothing's happenedsince I last rang. Donna said she would take it over and she would get it upstairs as soon as possible.

Meanwhile I have a stinker of a cold, probably from sitting outside on the drive cleaning and painting engine parts to keep me busy.:( Bits of engine look good though! :)

Got this in the post today.....



What a surprise! No VAT due!

Even this letter is not accurate.

"(4)Regulations under this paragraph may make provision in relation to cases where—

(a)any goods which are subject to a duty of excise or consist in a new means of transport are acquired in the United Kingdom from another member State by any person;

(b)the acquisition of the goods is a taxable acquisition and is not in pursuance of a taxable supply; and

(c)that person is not a taxable person at the time of the acquisition,

for requiring the person who acquires the goods to give to the Commissioners such notification of the acquisition, and for requiring any VAT on the acquisition to be paid, at such time and in such form or manner as may be specified in the regulations.
(5)Regulations under this paragraph may provide for a notification required by virtue of sub-paragraph (4) above—

(a)to contain such particulars relating to the notified acquisition and any VAT chargeable thereon as may be specified in the regulations; and

(b)to be given, in prescribed cases, by the personal representative, trustee in bankruptcy, interim or permanent trustee, receiver, liquidator or person otherwise acting in a representative capacity in relation to the person who makes that acquisition."

There is no paragraph 2 (5D) or (5C) for that matter!:rolleyes:

Here is a section from the NOVA document that again doesn't apply to me!

"How will component parts brought in from either insider or outside of the EU for incorporation into a restoration project be treated?

If a business or private individual buys new or used component parts (from suppliers outside of the EU or from another Member state of the EU) and these parts are incorporated in to a restoration project vehicle which will eventually be licensed and registered by the DVLA, a NOVA declaration will not be required.

Component parts that are imported from a country outside of the EU will be liable to import VAT and customs duty and should be correctly classified at the time of importation.

Component parts imported into the UK from a another member state of the EU may be subject to acquisition tax but this will depend on the tax status of the goods at the time of supply and whether the supply is to a VAT registered business or a business not VAT registered or a private individual.

Where a chassis (or frame) with sufficient major components are imported from outside the EU or from another Member State in the same consignment (as discussed above) they will not be regarded as component parts for NOVA purposes.

Kit Cars
If the components within the kit would be sufficient to constitute a complete vehicle if already assemble (see above) the Kit car must be notified into NOVA by a VAT registered business. If the Kit is imported from a country outside of the EU by a private individual Customs duty and import VAT will be payable and HMRC will make the NOVA notification on your behalf from the import declaration."

This is the only bit that could possibly apply to me but (1) it isn't a restoration, (2) There is no evidence it came from outside the UK!!! I still don't get it!:confused:

"How do I make a NOVA notification for a restoration project vehicle?

If a complete vehicle or component parts with the essential characteristics of a vehicle are imported from outside of the EU, a VAT registered business must make a NOVA notification. However, the HMRC NCH will make the notification on behalf of private individuals or non-VAT registered businesses.

If a complete vehicle or component parts with the essential characteristics of a complete vehicle are brought to the UK from another member state of the EU the NOVA notification must be made irrespective of whether the vehicle is brought in by a VAT registered business, non-VAT registered business or private individual.

In some instances a VAT registered business or non-VAT registered business/private individual (where required) may have insufficient information to make an electronic notification into NOVA, because the restoration project may have commenced before the introduction of NOVA or the vehicle was purchased in the UK partially restored and they do not know the origin of the imported vehicle and were not given any documentation showing the vehicle has been already notified into NOVA. In such circumstances a paper NOVA 1 form should be submitted, completed as fully as possible with the information available. Copies of the receipts for parts you have purchased should be included to prove that the vehicle is a restoration project."

Good news, I have been given my new AGE RELATED PLATE number, just waiting for a call back with the V5 ref and I'll be off to the local ford dealer to have plates made. Then just need to wait for an emailed updated cover note with the reg on and I can go for a drive! Can't quite believe it! :D Weather permitting!

I hope something better comes of all the red tape you have had to endure Chris, cos your story would no doubt put some peeps off having a go at an incredibly satisfying project "building your own car" hopefully peeps can see through all this waffle and still have a go .....good on yer for plodding on mate

I am aware of the negativity but all I can say is keep your receipts, take pictures, lots of pictures, keep records of dates and ask for help on here. It's still possible to get registered there's just a few more hoops to jump through at the end. I'm now in a position to advise if anyone has to go through the HMRC malarky.

Edit: An important date is the year you complete the chassis, seemed to be a sticking point with HMRC.

Got the cover note! :D

Glad you've got through the mire Chris, must say it makes me a bit worried as mine is someone elses failed project and he kept none of the original receipts. As mine stands there is not a single component on the chassis that hasn't been replaced and even the chassis has been altered so I can cover all that but not purchase of original metal etc
Fingers crossed

You might have to get creative with your receipts, worse case is a Q Plate I'd imagine. You have the receipt for the kit car from the previous owner which should be fine for HMRC with regards to VAT. Which is all they're after really.

OK I'm done with DVLA swell now V5 is in the post. Going to see if any friendly garages will make me some reg plates tomorrow based on the cover note! :D

Thanks for that advice Chris - hope it works.
Number plates - ask for some 'show' plates, then you can get anything you want!
Also - are you/and maybe the car/ going to the Nat Kitcar show? Be nice to put a face to a name
Ian

For what its worth, my reciept for the steel to make the chassis was just a printed out email.. could have been from anyone..

Cheers
Stot

I doubt I'll make it to Stoneleigh this year but do want to go one year. I'm just getting over a bad clod/flu.

I've asked a friend of friend who owns a garage with plate making ability so I should be on the road tomorrow. Only concern is the council tax cheque hasn't crashed yet. :rolleyes:

Well done on finally getting past the dvla.
My tax disc turned up 4 days before the cheque was cashed.

Thanks for that Steve, Looks like I'm good to go then! :D

Benn meaning to ask, what did you use to make the pattern for your covers. That's my next job! Cheers

Agree with this, they just see pieces of paper and tick boxes.

I ended up making 2 templates. The first was made of lining wall paper and was a failure. The second, I used a piece of clear polyethylene. I used the straight edge behind the seats as a starting point. Made a template for the headrests, cutout and then selotaped the sheet to the rear of the car. I pulled the sheet tight at the front and then marked with a sharpie
I got my mum to sew it up after transferring it to the fabric. She ended up using her old hand powered singer machine as her electric one wasn't stong enough.
Along with a centre zip.
Template picture

Time for a drive! :D

Enjoy mate you've long deserved it and you are a jammy burger ....thats a nice plate and probably worth money

Cheers Kev, don't worry there are a couple of extra numbers that I've removed but I do still like the reg. Making sure you have an invoice that says NEW chassis goes a long way to getting you an age related plate. Had a couple of blasts in it, used about a 1/4 of a tank. Scared the missus, got told off, scared my best mate who was trying to look cool in a fluffy hat and just waiting to take the kids out.

First off the speedo wasn't working and my sunnies and hat where trying to go AWOL and during the initial first 10 minutes the engine was struggling to rev past 5000rpm, then it had a bit of a episode, I just kept driving it returned home, sorted the speedo and then went back out. Stopped in a car park and rev the bollocks off of it. and then it seemed to sort itself. Might change the fuel filter just incase but it seems ok now. It's great on the twisty stuff keeping it in 2nd and 3rd above 4500rpm, runs out of puff on the straights though so I think I will fit this 1.8 engine sooner rather than later.

Since I've had nothing better to do I've spent the last 5 weeks doing this!:D


Will fit a lightened flywheel to it and a drilled sump (for the turbo) :D

So LSD and 1.8 is next on the cards, once the stripes and the wheel alignment are sorted.:

Shot when we were cruising waiting for the traffic ahead to clear the bends we were coming to.



Shift light is really good, really helps to know when to change gear, I love it!

Thanks Chris and Stot for the advice - Chris - looks absolutely brilliant - I like the disguise - and the car - er and the new engine, definitely jealous :)

The full face mask is ace, really keeps the cold out. I'm basically wearing my winter mountain biking gear with a retro helmet and goggles. Cosy!

Well last night after I took the kids out for a blast, which they both loved, I parked the car in the garage, when I got out there was a nice trail of oil on the floor! :eek:

I don't remember hitting the sump or anything, did I not tighten the sump plug properly! :rolleyes:

Nope the T adapter for my oil sender and oil warning light had failed! Lost about 100ml of oil, I think most of it was on the garage floor. The adapter was made of aluminium, I know I know, but it was the only one I could find at the time that was male 1/8BSPT to female 1/8NPT and 1/8BSPT female.

As a temporary fix this morning I managed to get a loctited self tapper from one of the spark plug wire brackets in there. And later on I drove over to screw fix to pickup a set of stud extractors with Gabe (8). Pretty boring drive in the school run traffic but got plenty of stares and beeps, one kid couldn't quite believe his eyes I don't think, he just stood staring at us with his mouth open at the lights. Made me laugh, maybe he thought he was looking at some undiscovered superheros!

Mate came round later and we had a quick blast, he couldn't believe the acceleration, "kicked football" I think he described it as!

And last but not least my V5 turned up "WATSON SUPER 7" it says! :D That did make me laugh!

So I'll be back in the garage tomorrow fixing it! Good times!:D

Think I'll attempt this this long weekend, going to be a bit rainy so this will keep me busy. Thanks for the tips.

Went to Stoneleigh yesterday, I was only there for three hours. Spoke to an Ultima owner who was selling his car or his miss was, he didn't seem to happy, £45k. Then into hall A-E quick run round there, popped my head into the cars for sale hall, not much there.

Quick watch of the Westy's being ragged around then finally found show halls 1 and 2, spoke to a guy who built a roaster back in 2012 and had since built 3 other more expensive cars and was now doing key turn builds for MEV's Aston Martin replica which looks ace.

I was then stopped dead in my tracks by this......



After staring and drooling for 20 minutes I finally dragged myself away spoke to westfield about the s2000 car and dimensions and then had a long chat with Canems ECU's and the Road Runner Racing guys. Some clever mx5 engine tricks going on there and the SR2 chassis design is on another level better than caterham or westfield in my opinion. Bought a QR boss from rally design quick look at the show stopping Supercharged Ultima, more drooling and then I was heading back to the car.

So many 7 types it was a bit overwhelming. There are some M3 donor 7's there but with the enormous wheels, look like you could go off road with the ground clearance. A lot of haynes roadster look a like chassis there too.

Think I'm going to concentrate on more power with my car over the next year start the double garage build at the bottom of the garden and then "maybe" start thinking about creating an uprated fully triangulated round tube roadster chassis. LOL I can't believe I've just typed that. :rolleyes:

Oh btw on the way back from screw fix the other day, about half a mile from home we heard a chirping noise, weird. When I sorted the oil sender issue I noticed I was missing something......



Couldn't get one on Saturday but should be able to pick one up today hopefully. Bought that belt 4 years ago when the original donor spat it's one off, only lasted 50 miles!:rolleyes:

Last time I lost a belt was in 1991! About a week after my driving test in my dads Lada Riva 1600SLX.

Did the classic old fix of a pair of a pair of tights to keep the alternator and water pump running till we could get it to the mechanic for a new belt.

TT

I waited for a belt from EuroCarParts which I got and fitted today. Oil leak fixed, drive belt fixed, sorted the rack centering and got one of the front wheels pointing back in the right direction it was 3 turns out!:eek:

Going to try a bit more tire pressure maybe 20psi rather than 15psi.

Anyway went out for a hoon about felt better round the corners now the wheels are pointing in the right direction. BUT, the 5000prm stuttering returned. Checked all the plugs and they all look a little lean on mixture, got to be the fuel pump, filter or FPR. I'll fit the filter as soon as it arrives and see. Got some redex too. Nearly used a full tank in only 70 miles! Got a about a gallon left. 10 miles per gallon then!:D I have been foot flat to the floor 90% of the time though. :D

Fuel filter arrived today, I wasted no time in fitting it and then after contemplating a wet bottom I saw a gap in the weather at about 8:30pm and decided to risk it to the local BP garage to fill it up. Only needed 5-6 gallons so I must of still had 2 gallon left from the original tank. Anyway it revved fine to 6k plus on the way there. All filled up and walking back to my car, "er, oops" I hadn't button down the bonnet catches, not a one of them, how the hell the bonnet stayed on at 70mph is beyond me. Note to self do not fit bonnet without using latches ever again.:rolleyes:

Anyway I blasted up and down the bypass a few times taking it to the rev limit in the first four gears and it didn't miss a beat, I will check the plugs in the morning. Also I filled it up with BP Ultimate 97 ron and when I got home I chucked some redex in too, just in case.

Very pleased with it, feels planted at speed but the wind was trying to rip my helmet and goggles off!

Need to modify the wing stays, see if I can't get them rock solid.

Took the kids to school yesterday morning, great response from people. :D Last night I managed to dial in some negative camber on the front wheels, only 1 deg though using the lower wishbone as a reference. I then spent 4 hours strengthening the drivers side wheel arch support. Took it for a bast late and it seems to of worked. Needs tidying up and replanting now and then I'll do the other side. Still enjoying the build. it's great to be able to make changes and then immediately test them.

Love it or hate it, I love it! I don't know why I didn't do it earlier!:D

Took me a while to figure out what you were on about. Have to say... Love it! :D

Thanks John, my mate who's a bit of a traditionalist doesn't like it, he likes to keep things stock standard, although he has got a huge exhaust on his mk2 golf atm. If you did this to your daily driver I imagine people might think you're a cock! Lol :D

It's very 80's Trans Am.

lol me too.... but yep why the hell not:) ( re love it or hate it)

Ad be a knob all day in one of those ne probs:o

Me too! Until I couldn't afford any more petrol!:D