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Davidbolam 11th January 2014 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by skov (Post 95328)
That's what I thought :confused:
I seem to recall they're only allowed a head skim and a bit of porting, and have to run on the standard ECU.
I'd be surprised if they got 150bhp, let alone 250!



My thoughts exactly! I can pick up a 1.6 for less than £100, but chances are it's going to need a load of work too.

The other option I was thinking of was sticking a 1.8l Mk2.5 lump in there (~150bhp standard).
That's going to be a fair bit of work though, and even those are 10 years old and starting to go bang now...

Got the races mixed up. I know a company caled AK Automotive who ran a 1.6 in the Northern Sports and Saloon Car Championship that had been tubocharged to 250 bhp. they have now put in a 2.0 turbocharged engine and it has 350bhp. the car they run in the Ma5da races car no 90 which is a different car.

james3004 11th January 2014 10:47 PM

I would say 250bhp out of a 1.6 would make it fairly unreliable!

Go for a 1.8 john ;)

skov 12th January 2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by james3004 (Post 95333)
I would say 250bhp out of a 1.6 would make it fairly unreliable!

I would have thought so too, but lots of people seem to manage to get that sort of power out of the 1.6 (or at least claim they do!).

I think I'm just going to rebuild the 1.6, then possibly think about adding a small turbo. I won't be trying to get anything like 250bhp out of it though!

Almost ready to get the engine out by the way James. Just need to undo the gearbox and engine mount bolts, so the sooner I can borrow your crane the better ;)

james3004 12th January 2014 01:41 PM

Are to going to decompress the engine or just run really low boost?

I best get a wriggle on.....:rolleyes:

skov 12th January 2014 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by james3004 (Post 95342)
Are to going to decompress the engine or just run really low boost?

I best get a wriggle on.....:rolleyes:

There's no need to decompress unless you're going for silly boost.
Mazda used a slightly modified engine from the 323 turbo for the early MX5's, so they're already fairly low compression, and ideal for bolting a blower on :cool:

Don't worry about rushing, I've got plenty of other things to be getting on with!

james3004 13th January 2014 06:08 PM

You make it sound so easy;) :D

skov 13th January 2014 06:15 PM

Only because I've never done it before, and I'm still blissfully unaware of what's really involved :D

james3004 13th January 2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by skov (Post 95372)
Only because I've never done it before, and I'm still blissfully unaware of what's really involved :D

:D how hard can it be!?!??

skov 13th January 2014 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by james3004 (Post 95373)
:D how hard can it be!?!??

Harder than I thought - just spent an hour trying to get a broken stud out of my turbo and I still haven't got the c**t out :mad:

johnl63 13th January 2014 10:55 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUKg...0U5 9RxFKwHWq
aussie boys run you through the process
john

CTWV50 15th January 2014 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by johnl63 (Post 95380)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUKg...0U5 9RxFKwHWq
aussie boys run you through the process
john

That Turbo Manifold design looks great, cheap and easy. I'm already browsing ebay for a TD04 turbo! :D

skov 15th January 2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CTWV50 (Post 95406)
That Turbo Manifold design looks great, cheap and easy. I'm already browsing ebay for a TD04 turbo! :D

I had something very similar in mind for the manifold :D

Just been offering up the turbo to the side of the engine. It's looking a bit tight!

CTWV50 15th January 2014 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by skov (Post 95407)
I had something very similar in mind for the manifold :D

Just been offering up the turbo to the side of the engine. It's looking a bit tight!

What turbo have you got again? That manifold is tiny though, surely with something like that you could make it work.

skov 15th January 2014 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CTWV50 (Post 95409)
What turbo have you got again? That manifold is tiny though, surely with something like that you could make it work.

I didn't say I couldn't make it work :D

I've got a TD04L-12T off a Volvo:




CTWV50 15th January 2014 10:46 PM

That looks fine! There's loads of room! ;)

What is the melting point of fibreglass again?? :D

jason 82 16th January 2014 08:58 AM

Tidy job. That you tube video is going to get us all divorced, & bankrupt ! :D well done for this skov, pioneering the way for us mx5 boys. I smell competition with the fix or repair daily boys !:D :D

flyerncle 17th January 2014 03:08 PM

I smell brown trousers :p

james3004 17th January 2014 07:06 PM

Have you not got the turbo upside down in the pic john?

Mine went the other way up:confused:

skov 17th January 2014 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by james3004 (Post 95440)
Have you not got the turbo upside down in the pic john?

Mine went the other way up:confused:

Erm sort of... but if I put it the other way round the exhaust comes out the wrong side :rolleyes:
I have however removed the locating pegs in the housings so I can rotate the centre section round 180 degrees so it's the right way up.

K4KEV 18th January 2014 11:59 AM

its called "clocking" when you turn the cartridge....ideally you want oil feed at the top and drain at the bottom...drain usually goes straight into the sump. things look like they are going to be tight in there use plenty of that heat shield stuff on the back of any fiberglass near hand.

CTWV50 18th January 2014 05:48 PM

I nearly bought a TD04 this week! Fortunately I came to my senses and bought some aluminium sheet! :rolleyes:

What engine management are you thinking of using John?

skov 21st January 2014 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CTWV50 (Post 95452)
I nearly bought a TD04 this week! Fortunately I came to my senses and bought some aluminium sheet! :rolleyes:

What engine management are you thinking of using John?

There's no point resisting, you know it's inevitable :D

Haven't quite decided on engine management yet. I've got a half baked plan to modify/enhance the OEM ECU, but chances are I'll get stuck or lose interest and buy something instead!

skov 21st January 2014 10:21 PM

In other news, the turbo project's on hold whilst I rebuild the engine.
Stage 1 is complete - got the engine out this evening:



Thanks for the loan of the crane James :cool:

james3004 22nd January 2014 10:45 AM

You have been a busy boy this week! ;)

Glad to help mate :)

skov 22nd January 2014 11:25 AM

I suspect the rest of the week will be somewhat less productive.
I woke up with a severe case of man-flu this morning... :(

james3004 22nd January 2014 01:17 PM

Funny you should say that I can feel the onset of the dreaded man flu!!:(

skov 23rd January 2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by james3004 (Post 95495)
Funny you should say that I can feel the onset of the dreaded man flu!!:(

Oh no! Apologies if it was me that infected you :o
Hope for your sake it wasn't - this has got to be the worse case I've had in years :(

twinturbo 23rd January 2014 12:11 PM

I used to have a load of TD04-HL15G's when I had my T5...

All long long gone now...

TT

CTWV50 23rd January 2014 06:44 PM

Look at this!

http://www.homemadeturbo.com/fabrica...flange-120190/

I'm still looking at turbos on ebay! :D

skov 30th January 2014 01:45 PM

It was a bit touch and go at times, but it looks like I somehow survived the dreaded man flu!
Managed to drag myself out in the garage the last couple of nights and got the engine stripped down.
The block's currently waiting to be picked up for a honing before I treat it to a new set of piston rings and bottom end bearings:


CTWV50 30th January 2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by skov (Post 95613)
It was a bit touch and go at times, but it looks like I somehow survived the dreaded man flu!
Managed to drag myself out in the garage the last couple of nights and got the engine stripped down.
The block's currently waiting to be picked up for a honing before I treat it to a new set of piston rings and bottom end bearings:


Doing a proper job! Which TD04 did you get 12T 16T 15G etc?

CTWV50 30th January 2014 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by skov (Post 95411)
I didn't say I couldn't make it work :D

I've got a TD04L-12T off a Volvo:




Doh. Nevermind. I have manful this week and it's affecting my mind!:(

edit: *manflu! See what I mean!

skov 2nd February 2014 02:19 PM

Ha ha, I know the feeling Chris.
My head's only just about back to normal. In fact I'm not sure what I was thinking when I decided to do a proper job on the engine rather than my usual half ar5ed approach :D

skov 6th February 2014 01:18 PM

Got my block back yesterday - it's looking much nicer now the bores have been honed.
Ordered a set of ACL race series bearings but currently struggling to find any sensibly priced piston rings - mazda wanted £216+VAT for a set :eek:

K4KEV 6th February 2014 02:16 PM

crikey:eek: for not a lot more you could get forged pistons that would come with rings... if you google mazda tuners in the uk there are a few to whom you could ask

james3004 6th February 2014 05:07 PM

:eek: That's really not so good!

jason 82 7th February 2014 08:04 AM

That's going to be one quick car when it's done. Have you had your turbo rebuilt ? I changed my mates turbo on his laguna 1.9 dci, and it was knackered ! The turbo veins had been hitting the casing, and had completely lunched the veins ! Just check the end float in the turbo, & make sure that you have no play at all, otherwise it could cost you your engine when bits fall into the block, as it did with my mate. I will put pictures up on here in a bit. Turbo clinic are really good, they will completely rebuild it for about £250, or if you are feeling really brave, you can buy a replacement cartridge for about £160 on the net. Good luck !:D

skov 7th February 2014 11:19 AM

To be fair there is a bit more play in the turbo than I would like.
The blades just touch the housing....
My current plan is to buy a rebuild kit and rebuild it myself. How hard can it be :D

Regarding the piston rings, after hours of googling and cross referencing I managed to order a set of aftermarket ones from the states for just under £50.
Fingers crossed they turn up and they're the right part!

jason 82 7th February 2014 12:59 PM

I would get that turbo rebuilt to be on the safe side. The two faces should not touch. I know that the tolerances are very fine, but if that thing touches, your rebuilt engine will be in a bit of a bad way.

K4KEV 7th February 2014 02:18 PM

If you are planning a re-build then invest in the best circlip pliers you can and a pair of needle nose pliers......you will defo need them;)


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