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AshG 23rd December 2012 09:36 AM

if you actually read many (not all) open source licence agreements hidden in the small print it says that it is free for personal use but organisations must pay.

robo 23rd December 2012 12:07 PM

I dont want to start a blame fest but we are where we are and the forum is still suffering .Why cant the last 5000 members just be deleted? If the date order thing wont work what about all the stupid name combos, they stand out like a sore thumb.:mad:

Bob

Bonzo 23rd December 2012 01:07 PM

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This one is active most of the time on here & known to the anti spam community.

http://spam-ip.com/lookup-2975-113.19.16.14.html

Some useful information available on that web site. ;)

Big Vern 23rd December 2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 87269)
Said with the very greatest of respect BV

The sign up procedure of this forum is/was insanely amateur at best.

This was a problem waiting to happen.

Admin had the chance to close this forum to new members within 24 hrs of this all kicking off.
Instead, chose not to do so for several weeks, resulting in several thousand sleeping accounts that now need to be cleaned up. :rolleyes:

Sorry, in my book, that's just sheer incompetence.


Yes, I know, this forum is provided free by Haynes but at the end of the day it must be a valuable marketing tool for them, else they wouldn't waste resources on it.

Every member who has bought the Haynes title " Build your own sports car on a budget " has paid for this forum.

Said book being one of Haynes best selling titles. ;)

I don't disagree, the sign up procedure is too easy, and nothing was done as soon as it all kicked off. But thats where we are now. The forum has gone down hill fast since this started.
Whether Haynes still think this site is a valuable marketing tool hmm not so sure. High volume sales of the book early on but sales have leveled out and with other exciting kits moving in on the budget end of the kit car market this could be a convenient way for them to bail out:eek:
Hence why I've joined up on your site:)

The forum was provided free, the book price wouldn't have changed if there was no forum, nor will it if the forum closes.

At this point in time what has happened however badly its been handled is to some degree irrelevant, its in the past, whats more important is what, if anything, is going to be done to restore the forum.
Sad but I think this forum will close, even if they do fix it I suspect too many will have defected to 'ronnies' and the resultant low traffic will seal the forums fate!

robo 23rd December 2012 09:15 PM

I see we are still in good company:eek: :eek: Bliliaerype, entecyRot, Frulmormbof, idexepear, napwebtenny, SeelvebeM, semaincursemn, tradaagrish, uIoGjKkUjG, xl5zse, yNiGtIkImQ, zJoTxTzAyH

Bob:mad:

flyerncle 24th December 2012 07:02 PM

They may not have sold as many books had it not been for the forum and its good name as a starting point prior to book purchase.

alga 27th December 2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshG (Post 87281)
if you actually read many (not all) open source licence agreements hidden in the small print it says that it is free for personal use but organisations must pay.

Ash, in fact licences that do that do not fall under the common definitions of open source licences.

http://opensource.org/osd -- note items 5 and 6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_...are_Guidelines

Albertas


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