cheers this is the image i have been trying to create. Thanks for the picture and sorry for any confusions!

hi, basically with the lower wishbone parallel to the floor the upper balljoint face should be paralell with the top of the mushroom this looks like the balljoint is pointing upwards but if you look at the upright fom the front you can see where the strut if it were there would be at a 90degree angle to where the balljoint is now and if the strut was there it would be leaning in at the top
hope this makes sense and helps
Ray

cheers Ray

apologies, :o maybe i didn,t explain what i meant clearly, hangs head , tough few days:rolleyes: :)

cheers
andy