In terms of the Roadster though, Ronnie said yesterday that the mounts for the Zetec, Pinto and CVH are all reasonably close.

If they are close enough it would be possible to make one chassis that can take all 3 engine types without modification

I know its not entirely universal, but would give people buying a complete chassis some options...

i would look to confirm the donor engine choice & fit the engine mounts relevant to the position that is needed.

its a case of communication between the customer & the chassis builder :)

andy

It is possible to allow for at least 5 car motors and maybe more bike motors without altering Chris's most luvvly design...;)

[quote=mr henderson;18258]Reasons-

How much torque should this type of rubber mounting be subjected to? I don't have any workshop manuals featuring this type to hand, but basically it's a flat plate bonded to rubber, and surely should not be tightened beyond a moderate amount.


Hmm I dont know what sierra your mounts come off but mine are certainly not just a flat plate bonded to rubber.
I think that slotted chassis would be fine but if you were worried about movement there are engineering ways around this a simple engine type specific plate bolted onto the chassis would stop any movement.
or just make different engine side mounts to suit a standard position hole
I only entered this conversation as ive built my chassis and knw there are pitfalls to thinking you can just buid to the book
for instance mr henderson show me where in the book are the dimensions for the standard engine/g/box mounts i assure you you need to fit an engine to find the positions or copy someone elses as there are no dimensions in the book.

One chassis can suit at least 5 car motors and 5 or more bike motors without changing the chassis...change the chassis and you run the risk of nobodies bodywork fitting. I know mine fits Chris's design because I made a chassis first then used that to make sure it all fitted nice and snug like.

Also from what I understand of the IVA you are best sticking to the Donor engine and gearbox anyway unless that ratty Sierra was fitted with 'Busa motor prior to being used as a donor then no worries...:confused:

I'm referring to the type of rubber engine mounting shown in the book, sometimes referred to as a bobbin, and they are indeed made by bonding the flat metal plate that the stud is atteched to to the rubber, how else would they be made, and still be flexible?

I'm not worried about the movement, why would I be worried, if the builder isn't capable of drilling 2 holes in the flat plates provided on the book chassis to accept the rubber mountings, then he is going to have a very hard time of it. The obvious sensible solution is to leave the plates undrilled, and allow the builder to place the holes as required. No slots required.

Absolutely, and that is what the builder, not the chassis maker, is going to do. Simple. Two holes. No problemo

Hope that reassures you

Thank you very much for your concern but I can assure you that I was never worried about any of the above points. As I have no intention of buying a chassis from you as ive already built my first one and its in my workshop with an engine/g/box fitted modded brackets to fit 7.5" diff and the complete front suspension on it too.
As always my comments are always meant to be helpful and hopefully knowlegable. it would seem you dont know what a sierra engine mount rubber looks like but im sure you will find out
do you live anywhere near poole ,dorset? I would be happy to show you one lol ;)

I have no idea why you are keeping on with this, and I am starting to detect an unpleasant edge to your responses. I really can't be bothered with this sort of thing anymore so am not going to respond to your next post on the subject.

Thank Fuck For That
les g

:D :D

it took a while

andy

Maybe this will end it all.
Buy the book make a chassis,Buy a chassis build a car.

The only thing you have with the book is the plans to make a chassis and turn it into a car no come backs.
Buy a chassis from someone,you get product liability,sale of goods act,duty of care etc etc etc,need I go on any more.
The original question was what constituted a full chassis to buy.

I thought this hobby was all about personal choice

if you want a standard car go and buy one end of !!!!!!
cheers les g

PS can you get different color rubber engine mounts and what do they look like :D

Probably Les ;)

They are sort of round, with a couple of sticky out bits that could be used to nuts on.
Don't do them up too tight though, You risk pulling the captive bolt through the plate that has been bonded to the rubber :D :D

cheers for that bonzo :cool:
do you have a brochure showing the different colors and styles please ;)
cheers les g

Ps : could i not just leather the sticky out bits with a ball pein hammer and sort of rivet the engine down ??:rolleyes:

I can only lay my hands on Pink ones at the moment :eek:

The rivet idea might be a problem !!??

When you twat the sticky out bit with the MF hammer it is liable to bounce back & twat you in the face :D :D

Best wear some decent goggles :cool:

'glass the thing in then it won't move....;)

OH dear I think my sarcasm has upset someone
Im sorry if I upset anyone dont know what gets into me sometimes
Ray:)

Tut tut....:rolleyes:

hmm dont ban me pleeease :D

I have no problems with the contents of your posts Ray :cool:

A honour to have a man of your caliber as a member of this forum, let's hope you don't get fired :D

I,ll get my coat for that pun :o

Thanks ill be stuck in the house all day now (cant get my head through the door lol)
Ray:o

just squeeze it thru the garage door & get building :D :D

watch out for those "pesky" pink engine mounts, they clash with the engine block :D

andy

Evil buggers !

Me offended not at all
i just cant help meself at times
i,ve just got one of those sense of humours
cheers les g