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loony 28th February 2013 09:31 PM

Update:
I changed steering wheel - 32cm Raid fits much better than OEM Sierra:


And column bearing on it's place:


I found old/new pedals ovarlay kit:


But - will it fit to the Roadster ? They are 6cm (clutch&brake pedal) and 5,5cm (gas pedal) wide...

loony 2nd March 2013 05:48 PM

Saturday update:
I bought VAG starter motor for my electric reverse - another £10


It's a 0,9kW starter from 1,2/1,4 Polo/Fabia/Golf etc.


And I trial fit reverse gear to transmission tunnel - it's OK (as big as it can - 5mm clearance on both sides):



loony 2nd March 2013 05:51 PM

Yesterday I picked up rear frame tubes, so ... it's time to weld chassis and move it forward:


And... now it's done - welded and moved forward to build rear frame:


wylliezx9r 2nd March 2013 06:47 PM

Good work Lucas, keep it up !

maxubar 2nd March 2013 07:41 PM

Hi.
Where did you get that ring for the electric reverse? I'm currently searching for one or a drawing to have it cutted..

Thanks
Tiago

loony 3rd March 2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxubar (Post 88820)
Where did you get that ring for the electric reverse? I'm currently searching for one or a drawing to have it cutted..

I draw one myself - DP12 72 teeth, 156mm diameter. Then it was laser cutted, but it's better to use waterjet instead of laser (too complex shape = too much heat).
Link: DP12 Z72 156mm.dxf

loony 16th March 2013 09:05 PM

Today progress:







loony 16th March 2013 09:06 PM

And some chassis plates...

loony 22nd March 2013 08:29 PM

Another block in the roadster puzzle... after over week of waiting (Polish post office is a nightmare) I got my steering rack... for about £14 :)





It's RHD Fiat Punto Mk2 PAS steering rack... TRW 37502372.
So as some of you realised it's FWD steering rack, so it wouldn't work. But, as I live in Poland and I building LHD car... and I will mount it upside down, everything will be OK (I hope).

Why this rack ? It's locost ? Yes, but... there's something else. Rack length (tie rod swivel center to swivel center) is about 530-540mm - better than Escort Mk2 rack, which is almost unavailable in Poland (almost, because you can always order it from UK, but it's not cheap). Maybe it's not "quick-rack" - about 2,7 lock-to-lock, but still better tha eg. Smart steering rack ;)

loony 23rd March 2013 11:29 PM

Busy day...

First - trial fit of steering rack:

I need different than book mounting plates (vertical), but it should be OK.

And back to welding:





loony 23rd March 2013 11:30 PM








loony 23rd March 2013 11:35 PM









And that's all for today... it was 11:00PM, so high time to... eat dinner.
Looks good, but plan was more ambitious... I wanted finish rear section... everything take more time than I thought.

alga 24th March 2013 12:29 AM

It is good progress! To me this was one of the most satisfying parts of the build -- the car-shaped chassis appearing out of nothing.

loony 24th March 2013 09:43 AM

Indeed, it's very satisfying (it was even kind of trance), that's why I wanted to finish it ;) Especially that this week will be busy at work/home, so there won't be time for roadster :(

loony 6th April 2013 09:08 PM

Today's progress (not too much, but always something):








loony 9th April 2013 07:57 PM

With a little help of my friend I brought some donor parts to garage and... my little engine ;)




I also moved whole build table to have easier access to everything...

ayjay 9th April 2013 10:05 PM

Looking good.

I always tried to do something every day,however small, even if it was only tidying, in order to keep moving forward!

You'll soon be rolling back and to in the workshop going "vroom, vroom"!

loony 10th April 2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayjay (Post 89584)
I always tried to do something every day,however small, even if it was only tidying, in order to keep moving forward!

Small steps, but in right direction ;)

Today I got steering column UJ to fit my Punto II steering rack...



The plan is to weld together Sierra and Punto II UJ to make one extended steering shaft to connect Sierra steering column with Punto steering rack...

loony 13th June 2013 12:39 PM

Time for update...
As I'm now unemployed I should have more time for roadster, but... life is cruel and I have to find a job. So... roadster is waiting for it's time.
But I'm trying to do something when I only can.

I bought some parts:
MB 190 radiator...


Clio header tank...


Headlights...


loony 13th June 2013 12:42 PM

I also got my CAD designed laser cut parts:

Paddle shifter to fit Sierra column...


Seat brackets...


And rollbar mounting plates...

loony 13th June 2013 12:44 PM

I shortened oil sump and made sump plate...







loony 13th June 2013 12:49 PM

I also shortened oil pick up:
Before:


After:


And last progress - I made suspension breckets:


In the meantime together with my brother we started making model/plug for bodywork (scuttle to be precise)...

loony 6th November 2013 09:17 AM

First of all, I'm little depressed... I'm unemployed (still), at June 22nd Polish government change the rules of registering kitcars (Alga - you where very lucky ;) ), so my motivation is very low. But I didn't give up as there is always light in the tunnel...

For last few months I did almost nothing.
I welded some harness mounting points, diff plates and that's all.




I was thinking about how to mount upper harness anchor points for use with popular in Poland long 4point harnesses... and I found this:

Short, 4point, Sabelt road legal harnesses (made in Italy - not cheap "China Top Quality"). So - they are mine - for about £60...
"Formula type" harnesses are very rare in Poland because there are no formula racing series or something. We got only one FIA approved track... That's why I'm so glad of myself.

flyerncle 6th November 2013 10:36 AM

The tunnel is long and the light is faint Lucas,but it is there !;)

ayjay 6th November 2013 11:20 AM

Good to hear you are still going on with your build:)

Every small step gets you closer to the goal.
Just ask if we can help;)

loony 14th November 2013 07:56 PM

Yesterday I picked up pack... No - I'm not a drug dealer ;)



As you can read - it's Sodium Carbonate not cocaine (4kg of cocaine would be worth more than my whole Roadster project)
What make me funny - I think in Poland, in my 200k citizen's city, it's easier to buy AK-47 than Sodium Carbonate. There is no such thing like washing soda or similar in the markets... strange country... how people lived without Internet...

Now I can clean my "Sierra stuff"...

voucht 14th November 2013 08:53 PM

Good for you Lucas. You'll see how magic the electrolysis with sodium carbonate is. Just amazing!
Good luck :)

alga 15th November 2013 12:28 AM

Hehe, are are you planning to electrolize your whole chasis? :-) I jused just a couple of spoons of soda for ~30-40 l of water. It was totally sufficient. My 6A battery charger was giving ~4A on large parts such as brake disks. Also, I made Na2CO3 by heating baking soda on the stove. It made a nice volcano-like reaction when steam and carbon dioxide was escaping the powder.

2 NaHCO3 -t-> Na2CO3 + H20 + CO2

P.S. Yeah, Wojciech mentioned to me about the change of rules. But if you just get on with the build, by the time you're finished the new path will be broken.

loony 15th November 2013 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alga (Post 94518)
Hehe, are are you planning to electrolize your whole chasis? :-) I jused just a couple of spoons of soda for ~30-40 l of water. It was totally sufficient.

I was ordering from Internet and I need to buy 4kg or 25kg for better value/postage ratio ;) I will sell 1-2kg to my friend who is fascinated with electrolysis for his WWII artefacts...

I was electrolysing my rear brake calipers with salt water - not bad, but soda should be better.

As for rules in Poland - they change it so often (not only registering rules, but everything like VAT, taxes etc.) that this can be truth - so I "keep calm and build roadster" ;)

I have another challenge - to find CDS tube for my wishbones... or even not CDS but in right size/diameter.

alga 15th November 2013 08:02 PM

Try Benteler distributors (previously Helens), they're multinational steel traders. My local branch allows ordering whatever you like with a minimum order of one 6 m length. CDS rollbar, wishbone tubes -- they have whatever you need, with the European quality certificates.

loony 15th November 2013 09:08 PM

I found CDS tubes in 20mm and 26,9mm diameters - maybe not ideal, but close enough ;) And there is hope that I can buy 2,5m of 20mm and 4,5m of 26,9mm - not whole 6m...
I need to ask in one more place in my city - one of the biggest dealer in Poland, but it's definitely wholeseller, so it can be difficult.

Thanks Alga - I will check your sugestion - maybe that's another option.

alga 16th November 2013 10:21 PM

After my crash I had to remake the rear upper wishbone, and friends suggested I remake the lower one too, even though it looks fine and the geometry is unchanged, it might have microfractures that might come out sooner or later. So I bought 6m lengths of the 20 and the 25 CDS tubes. Just a couple months later another local builder bought the 4+2m needed for a set of wishbones, so now I only have 2-3 m or the 20 mm tube left. Having some spare tube turns out useful sometimes, and the two 6m lengths cost me around 300 Lt (360 zł).

loony 18th November 2013 03:46 PM

What wall thickness did you buy ? I get offer for CDS tubes 20x2 and 25x2 and 2x6m should cost around 200PLN... But is it thick enough wall ?

I searched forum and locosbuilders and 2mm wall should be good, but I'm not sure...

loony 19th November 2013 03:04 PM

OK - tubes purchased - 6m of CDS 20x2 and 6m of CDS 25x2. Cost: about £33 :)
I also found metal shop with tube bender, so I can make roll bar...

alga 20th November 2013 03:47 PM

Well done! Re. the roll bar, I found a local rally club that also makes FIA rollcages. They have the tools, the know-how, and the materials to bend the rollbar nicely.

P.S. 2 mm walls is what everyone recommends for wishbones.

loony 30th November 2013 07:33 PM

Nothing special - but always something...
I cleaned uprights...







Today - both uprights are painted with primer...

Now it's time for front brake calipers... already in the electrolysis bucket.



I think I'll change bearings in rear hubs... they are old and it would be easier to electrolyse (?) them without bearings.

twinturbo 30th November 2013 08:51 PM

were the fronts just wire brushed?

That VAT of gunge looks disgusting!

TT

loony 30th November 2013 09:43 PM

Uprights were electrolysed :) Then delicate brushed...
Bucket looks like... bucket of sh... ;)

loony 1st December 2013 04:41 PM

OK - sunday update - 12" fan housing modified to fit MB190 radiator.
It's ready to fix it to radiator, but first I need to check where my engine wants radiator outlets ;)




loony 5th December 2013 10:58 AM

Front calipers (Mondeo MK2 2,5 V6 278mm discs) - painted and ready :)





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