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AshG 9th February 2010 10:15 PM

the clamp will fit its meant to be tight. the packer under the bigger bracket only needs to be 1.5-2mm on your front upper suspension brackets i welded a little bit of 3mm plate on to brace them as they are not central.

gingea1pom 9th February 2010 10:47 PM

Ash,

That makes perfect sense about the upper suspension bracket. I’m thinking two triangular gussets (stop sniggering at the back) would do the trick.

I have just had another bash at the steering clamp and it went on a little further. My rack is brand new and there might be an excess of paint on it!

Cheers Ginge

gingea1pom 12th February 2010 04:55 PM

11 Feb

I spent quite a bit of the day fabrication a bespoke engine stand to enable me to manoeuvre the engine and gearbox around the garage on a trolley jack without it falling over, also it will allow to fine adjust the position of the engine and gearbox in the car.

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I managed to get the engine and box ‘into’ the chassis, it was a little nightmare as I had already fitted the diff which made the back end really heavy, so to get the gearbox up the transmission tunnel I had to raise the front of the chassis and lower the rear. The opposite of how you would do it if you had an engine lift..

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It is roughly in position now and needs some measuring to get it perfect, I am going to be stuck if the 5mm steel I ordered doesn’t turn up soon because engine mounts are next.

Sierra is still on the drive!

12 Feb

Only had a couple of hours in the garage after going to ‘sharing assembly’ and before school pick up.

I concentrated on getting the output shaft of the gearbox bang in line with the input of the diff, ensuring the gear stick still goes in reverse and the reverse light switch connecters are still accessible, then I welded on the gearbox mounts (I added some ‘gussets’ to them just to beef things up a little) with the gearbox attached. As for the engine mounts, the steel hadn’t turned up so I sacked it at 1pm and watched CSI.

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The steel turned up at 2.30pm so tomorrow (I know Saturday and I get to go into the garage I think it is only because it is half term) I am going to mock up the complete steering system to make sure the driver’s side engine mount doesn’t encroach. I have finally admitted defeat and TR5 has got to go, I offered up the bike carbs and there is no way they will go on with it in place. Another example of Ginge thinking he knows better, rear hub nuts and now TR5, you would think I would have learnt by now.

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Sierra is still here.

Pictures arent working pop back later

Picture still not working properly dam it

I think I have got it now

Tatey 12th February 2010 05:58 PM

Looking really good Ginge. Although you've missed a weld on one of the uprights, look to the right of the engine in the last pic :p.

gingea1pom 12th February 2010 06:15 PM

Mate,

You must have eyes like a Hawk! I thought I had found the last missed weld the other day, thanks.

Cheers Ginge

HandyAndy 12th February 2010 06:40 PM

looking great Ginge, nice work

did you have the .........."looks like a car now" feeling? ;)

cos i know i did when put the engine / box in :D


Tatey........ i dropped a needle at the unit today....fancy coming over & finding it for me ????:p :D


cheers
andy

Bonzo 12th February 2010 06:52 PM

Brilliant stuff Ginge :cool:

I am pleased you posted those pictures of the gearbox position ...... It has certainly made things a lot clearer for my Zetec install :)

As I have said before ..... Those pesky Pixies sneak in the garage overnight & steal those welds :D :D

gingea1pom 12th February 2010 06:53 PM

Andy,

It defiantly feels more like I am building a car now and not just cutting and welding steel together, although I seem to have to weld something every day it is interspersed with engines and steering columns.

Ronnie,

I was really convinced I had got the last of the Chassis tube welding done, can’t believe I missed it.

Cheers Ginge

Bonzo 12th February 2010 07:14 PM

If it's any consolation ...... I missed that exact same weld .... Twice :rolleyes: :o :o

I wonder if anyone has counted how many welds there are on the Roadster chassis tubes !! :eek:

HandyAndy 12th February 2010 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 31322)

I wonder if anyone has counted how many welds there are on the Roadster chassis tubes !! :eek:

Hmmmmm........... now there,s a question :D NO i don,t know that answer :p as i spend more time cutting the chassis,s than welding them ;)

Ginge....

yeah , know what you mean.....its no longer a climbing frame for the kids or a "chinese puzzle"........its a CAR .

nice work mate .

cheers
andy

Tatey 13th February 2010 10:56 AM

Ginge i have to say im glad you made this build diary. Otherwise i would have welded the other roll bar mount on the wrong side of the car as well :eek:. I welded the first one on, put all of the other chassis plates around it to complete the box, then thought 'hmm, that space looks a bit tight to get a bolt for the suspension bracket in....bugger it is', quickly came on here and realised my mistake, 10 mins of grinding and a few welds later its all sorted :D.

flyerncle 13th February 2010 11:04 AM

Didn't listen to what I said did you. :p

Put the roll bar and plates on where they sit and make sure that if fits well before welding together just in case you need to alter it.

Will save you loads of hassle and grinding.

gingea1pom 13th February 2010 07:36 PM

13 Feb

I cracked on and cut out some 5mm plate for the engine mounts, two large pieces to sit flat on the chassis and two pieces to bolt to the engine. Nothing outstanding here I just traced around the old engine mount and cut it out.

Then decided the lack of pillar drill will be a big hold up, so because I am an impatient when it comes to buying stuff (I want to hand my money over and walk off with the item) I went to Wicks and purchased said item.

Now I like a good bit of engineering, and would rather pay a little more for the same item if it is better made and will last longer. I am under no illusion that my new £55 pillar drill is not at the height of pillar drill engineering HOWEVER after 8, 10mm holes through 5mm steel it is performing well, I am keeping the drill bit well cooled with oil.

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Should have the mounts finished tomorrow. Anyone else working on the roadster on valentines day?

Tatey 13th February 2010 08:04 PM

Looking good Ginge. I have to say my £40 pillar drill has been working a treat since I bought it last month, it's amazing how many uses you find for a bit of equipment you have done without for years.

I'll be working on my Roadster tomorrow, and even driving to Carlisle to help TwinTurbo get the chassis off his roof and collecting mine and HandyAndy's roadster bits.

GraemeWebb 13th February 2010 09:33 PM

Its Sunday tomorrow so I'll be working. By the way when is this valentines day thing?? :) :D

twinturbo 13th February 2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatey (Post 31418)
Looking good Ginge. I have to say my £40 pillar drill has been working a treat since I bought it last month, it's amazing how many uses you find for a bit of equipment you have done without for years.

I'll be working on my Roadster tomorrow, and even driving to Carlisle to help TwinTurbo get the chassis off his roof and collecting mine and HandyAndy's roadster bits.


Makes it sound like its on my house :)

TT

gingea1pom 14th February 2010 04:42 PM

14 Feb

5hrs in the garage today and I still haven’t finished both engine mounts, the driver’s side is done and I am chuffed with how it has turned out.

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The passenger side is a little trickier, simply because, the three bolts that go into the engine block are closer together so the strut, as it were, needs some cut-outs to allow you, or rather me, to get a socket on the bolts.

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I will be doing half term type stuff next week so no building but it should be full steam ahead next weekend.

Cheers Ginge

Bonzo 14th February 2010 05:14 PM

Awwww Ginge

Your engine mounting arm looks soooo much neater than my Ugly but stong AF ( Gorilla ones )

Going to have to re-make them now :o :D :D

Good work there mate :cool:

gingea1pom 14th February 2010 05:23 PM

Cheers Ronnie,

I am pleased that it has turned out as I wanted.

There is more to this, making engine mounts, than meets the eye.;)

Things like the bolts that go into the block need to be shortened, takes time to do properly, the strut needs to be marked up whilst in mid air before cutting angles, cutting out the big hole in 5mm steel.

I think I might get another angle grinder as I spend an inordinate amount of time swapping between cutting disc and flap disc.

Cheers Ginge

Bonzo 14th February 2010 05:41 PM

Definately agree with all of that ..... Certainly takes a little head work sometimes :)

Sometimes I have days when I can't see a clear way to solve a problem .... next day it just jumps straight out at you, hope it is just not me that has this afliction !!?? :confused: :rolleyes:

Not a bad idea to have a spare grinder .... Saves a fair bit of time ..... I just use several cheapies nowadays.
I'll kill a Makita or Bosch ( Not the quality of days gone by ) one in a couple of years.
Better value in a £14 B&Q one that'll last a year.

So far my build has seen the demise of 3 sub £20 grinders :D ( A lot cheaper than killing one, £100+ Makita !! )

twinturbo 14th February 2010 05:52 PM

B&Q Do their own Brand one with variable speed for £25ish.. I have the older version and it's the best grinder I have had ( Bosch, B&D, Clarke not as good)

TT

gingea1pom 14th February 2010 06:07 PM

I might invest in another one soon.

My problem at the moment is I have £1.58 in my build account.

I need to sell a scooter I have to inject some cash.

Cheers Ginge

Bonzo 14th February 2010 07:10 PM

Yes the B&Q Power Pro range is a lot better quality than their old Power Devil stuff ;)

The flap disk does put quite a load on the poor angle grinder .... Poor buggers don't stand a chance :D

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Know how it feels Ginge .... Very, very soon my build pot will be empty once more ( Paying for my last major purchace ) ;)

Been spending quite a bit this year .... Just keen to give the build a boost this year.

Besides the IVA, I have no more major spending to do, it's all here :cool:

Davey 20th February 2010 07:37 AM

For anyone contemplating getting a new 4.5" grinder check out Aldi tomorrow. They have one in at £14.99 and don't forget that all Aldi electrical equipment has a 3 year guarantee on it:D . i was going to my local B&Q today for one but now I'll hang fire till tomorrow and get the Aldi unit.

D.

twinturbo 20th February 2010 08:06 AM

I have given up buying Aldi stuff. It just does not last.

Hand Files.. Droped one and it shatterd!
DVD Player. #1 did not work , #2 lasted 40 days.
Compressor. Worked for 30 seconds then burnt out!
Jumper Pack. Lasted 18 months and would never start a car properly.

Think there have been a couple of other failures or underperformance issues..

TT

dogwood 20th February 2010 09:10 AM

I bet I hold the record for the most grinders burnt out during the build......:rolleyes:
8 so far and still counting.......:eek:

Admittedly they were cheap as chips..7.50€ each:eek:
I know I know, I could have bought a good one instead of loads of cheapies.
But I also burned out my best Bosch one.

Bonzo 20th February 2010 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogwood (Post 31998)
I bet I hold the record for the most grinders burnt out during the build......:rolleyes:
8 so far and still counting.......:eek:

Admittedly they were cheap as chips..7.50€ each:eek:
I know I know, I could have bought a good one instead of loads of cheapies.
But I also burned out my best Bosch one.

Can't match that, only killed 3 so far ..... Like I said ..... Your a harsh man :D

spud69 20th February 2010 11:16 AM

The only good tool i've had from Aldi to date is a pillar drill even though i did bend the shaft on my first one, my fault not clamping the steel properly, and they changed it straight away.

Must have gone through 6 grinders over the last 4 years, including Aldi ones, since bought a Makita grinder for £45 and its been great. Always worth buying good gear.

Just bought a nice big lathe for Saturn, coming on Wednesday, was going to buy one that Ash had for sale but needed to pay by credit card. Gonna be like xmas again.......;)

AndyH

alga 20th February 2010 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogwood (Post 31998)
I bet I hold the record for the most grinders burnt out during the build......:rolleyes:
8 so far and still counting.......:eek:

Admittedly they were cheap as chips..7.50€ each:eek:
I know I know, I could have bought a good one instead of loads of cheapies.
But I also burned out my best Bosch one.

I had to replace the brushes on my 9€ grinder. A bit cheaper than replacing the whole thing. Good thing it has the screw-in plugs on the sides to access the brushes.

Davey 20th February 2010 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinturbo (Post 31993)
I have given up buying Aldi stuff. It just does not last.

Hand Files.. Droped one and it shatterd!
DVD Player. #1 did not work , #2 lasted 40 days.
Compressor. Worked for 30 seconds then burnt out!
Jumper Pack. Lasted 18 months and would never start a car properly.

Think there have been a couple of other failures or underperformance issues..

TT

I've been buying and using Aldi gear for years and only had two failures, a 9"angle grinder died after 3 weeks and a digital camera failed after 18 months, both were replaced under warranty with no problems. I have several pieces of Aldi electrical equipment in the workshop and as long as you treat it as a hooby tool and not a real industrial item they're fine, certainly no worse than B&Q's offerings. I bought a B&Q own brand battery drill, 18V, hammer action etc. first time I tried to drill a 5mm hole in a concrete block the gearbox self destructed. I replaced it with one from their "Pro" range and that has been brilliant, now 6 years old and still going strong despite being dropped from the top of an eight foot ladder on more than one occasion.

D.

gingea1pom 20th February 2010 05:19 PM

20 Feb

Not quite full steam ahead as I didn’t get into the garage until 1pm.

I have finished the other engine mount, I forgot to take any pictures with it in situ, but suffice to say the engine and gearbox was in the chassis, supported by its own mounts.

I then stripped it all out put the engine by the garage door had a good tidy up finally getting two coats of etch primer on the mounts.

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Not sure what to do tomorrow but I should imagine it will involve welding the underside of everything I have welded so far, oh and fitting the handbrake cable guide CP14, then I will either have to pick the good book up or start cleaning Sierra parts.

twinturbo 20th February 2010 05:40 PM

Aldi Digital micrometer go mental over 10mm...

Their Wireless doorbell packed in after a couple of months too..

TT

twinturbo 20th February 2010 05:41 PM

Mounts look good.

TT

Davey 20th February 2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinturbo (Post 32040)
Aldi Digital micrometer go mental over 10mm...

Their Wireless doorbell packed in after a couple of months too..

TT

So take 'em back, they've got a 30 day no quibble in store money back guarantee backed up with a 3 year send it off to base guarantee. Aldi stuff is no worse than any other budget brand but it does have a genuine 3 year guarantee.

D.

GraemeWebb 20th February 2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogwood (Post 31998)
I bet I hold the record for the most grinders burnt out during the build......:rolleyes:
8 so far and still counting.......:eek:

Admittedly they were cheap as chips..7.50€ each:eek:
I know I know, I could have bought a good one instead of loads of cheapies.
But I also burned out my best Bosch one.

My B&Q cheapy went to angle grinder heaven about 15 mins ago, just when I was thinking that it was lasting well. That will teach me. Thinking - its just not me.

HandyAndy 20th February 2010 06:03 PM

my grinder is the cheapo Machine Mart one , £22 , its been well used, built my car & it now gets serious use at Saturn, a great bit of kit for the money :)

cheers
andy

Bonzo 20th February 2010 06:32 PM

Looking good
 
The engine mount's are looking tidy Ginge :) :)

Don't remind me of cleaning donor parts .... Can't say I am looking forward to that Job :eek:

I guess that's why it hasn't been done yet :o

adrianreeve 20th February 2010 07:11 PM

Electrolysis is your friend!! Donor parts came up like new, and all you have to do is wipe them under running water when done, then get some paint on them PDQ!

Actually turned out to be a pleasurable experience, and had me looking for more rusty stuff to do!!

Cheers

Adrian

twinturbo 20th February 2010 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrianreeve (Post 32064)
Electrolysis is your friend!! Donor parts came up like new, and all you have to do is wipe them under running water when done, then get some paint on them PDQ!

Actually turned out to be a pleasurable experience, and had me looking for more rusty stuff to do!!

Cheers

Adrian

Can you clean 20 years of gunge of an engine?

TT

Bonzo 20th February 2010 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinturbo (Post 32069)
Can you clean 20 years of gunge of an engine?

TT


Errrr well yes ..... That's what de-greaser and a pressure washer is for. :D

Electrolysis is a method of removing heavy rust scale .... very effective too ;)

Going to need a MF Electrolysis tank to fit an engine in, dread to think of the damage you'll do to the engines internals :eek: :D


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