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dogwood 7th May 2010 11:20 PM

Hi mate.
think you're right about the tyre marks.
Like just the little bit in the corner.

Just a thought, have you tried colour on the name wording?
Might not work, just a thought.

MightyMouth 7th May 2010 11:31 PM

You mean the HSCC or the Haynes Sports Car Club? I could put a little blue in the Full name bit but I think the chrome look suits the style.

tkpm 8th May 2010 12:43 AM

I think the Haynes Sports Car Club needs to stand out just a little bit more, apart from that, it look great.

Davey 8th May 2010 06:45 AM

I think the chrome wording looks good but I liked the tyre marks running down both sides.

D.

aerosam 8th May 2010 08:30 AM

MM that's looking great, really like the latest evolution.

dogwood 8th May 2010 09:57 AM

Hi Keith

It's the "Haynes Sports Car Club" bit I ment.
I like the chrome effect, just wondered if a tad of colour would help it stand out a bit more.
It may not, It may make it look tooo much.

Trouble is I like bright colours
Check out how my Roadster finished up, Bright Metalic Red !!!!
So probably not the best judge.:o


Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyMouth (Post 37752)
You mean the HSCC or the Haynes Sports Car Club? I could put a little blue in the Full name bit but I think the chrome look suits the style.


MightyMouth 8th May 2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkpm (Post 37754)
I think the Haynes Sports Car Club needs to stand out just a little bit more, apart from that, it look great.

Keep in mind that you are seeing a Reduced resolution image and that the full size image is larger and clearer. I will look at adding something to make it stand out a little more but it needs to be in keeping with the overall car theme so the options are limited.

MightyMouth 8th May 2010 01:28 PM

Here are a few options but to be honest I don't like them as well as the plain chrome. If the consensus is that one of these is better than I will work on that option.

Original Chrome Version


Yellow/Gold version



Red Version

dogwood 8th May 2010 01:39 PM

Think I'm inclined to agree with you.

Defo not the Red...

Gold not too bad..

But doesn't improve you're original

Thank's for trying though...:)

MightyMouth 8th May 2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogwood (Post 37774)

Defo not the Red...


Thank's for trying though...:)

And here I though you liked metallic red :)

dogwood 8th May 2010 01:52 PM

I doooooo like Metalic Red !!!:D

I also like Strongbow cider
But you can get too much of a good thing ;)

baz-r 9th May 2010 11:08 PM

just like to say im looking forward to the creation and joining the club :)

HandyAndy 10th May 2010 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urmyworld (Post 37946)

3. From the forum I see many avenues for the promotion of products related to the roadster, such as Handy Andy's Flat Pack Chassis Kits, Spud69 and Saturn Sports, even down to Bonzo providing nuts and bolts kits.

Comments please, or PM me if you have complaints.

Dave

David,

I,m sorry but i must make comment....

whilst there is no doubt about your interest in the creation of the "club" & your time & effort in your research into various aspects of creating a club.

BUT

I must say this ..............

The creation of the club is not to solely advertise suppliers,

The main reason for suggesting a club be created was to inform any interested folk who are not aware of this forum of how to find like minded & current builders etc etc by the means of having a contact point available for inclusion in the magazines available in the "Kit Car World",

I,ll be the first to say that the club WILL NOT clash with this forum in any way whatsoever, purely an extension of it,

lets not forget that we are very fortunate to have this forum , I , as the nominated secretary will always ensure that we do not jeopardise the fantastic forum we have.

cheers
andy

HandyAndy 10th May 2010 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urmyworld (Post 37952)
Hello,

As I am still sorting out legal stuff with regards a Chat Room.

If you are interested in a sneak preview

click on this link

http://www.hotconference.com/conference,23372722

I will be there for the next hour.

After that time this room will be password protected again, after all it is my personal room, you are all welcome to ask me questions via video, audio or text chat.

Dave


all suggestions of this nature should follow a process of being submitted to the club committee & thru discussions with Haynes the suggestion & feedback would be announced.

please follow the correct procedure.

thanks
andy

David_17 10th May 2010 06:46 PM

This may be a silly question, but what's the difference between the haynes roadster forum and a club?

HandyAndy 10th May 2010 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David_17 (Post 37964)
This may be a silly question, but what's the difference between the haynes roadster forum and a club?

Hi David,

The reason we have decided to create a club was to be able to have a contact point so that we have info printed in car magazines for people that are not aware of this forum but still read the kit car magazines, and then direct them to this forum.
then from this we will be able to arrange club events & hopefully discounts on products such as insurance etc, we,ll also have some club products...T shirts/mugs/stickers etc etc

not a silly question at all :)

cheers
andy

David_17 10th May 2010 06:56 PM

So do you mean making this forum into a club, or creating another forum along side it??

HandyAndy 10th May 2010 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David_17 (Post 37970)
So do you mean making this forum into a club, or creating another forum along side it??

No, this is where we are very lucky, we have this fantastic forum already, but in the kit car magazines when they print info to all the different clubs of kit cars , the haynes forum wasn,t able to be included in the listing, so by creating a club we can then do this & inform folk who read the magazines and maybe are thinking of building a car they can then find info on building a "book car" by finding a link to this forum.
And so we are able to promote the concept of building a car from the Haynes Book publications.

cheers
andy

David_17 10th May 2010 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandyAndy (Post 37973)
...in the kit car magazines when they print info to all the different clubs of kit cars , the haynes forum wasn,t able to be included in the listing...

Why not??

Surely, turning this site into an official club would be easier than having two forums??

HandyAndy 10th May 2010 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David_17 (Post 37980)
Why not??

Surely, turning this site into an official club would be easier than having two forums??

the magazines welcome info from clubs for inclusion in their publications but as this forum isn,t a club, as its hosted by the Haynes brand name which includes publications of the haynes manuals that we,ve all used when repairing /servicing vehicles etc it isn,t classed as a defined "Marque" of car, so the reason for creating a club.

The idea of a forum on the club site has been discussed but felt that the club should promote THIS forum & its use, as its already here & of great help to people that know its available,
the club will run alongside this forum & won,t be competing with it, purely an addition to it to allow events etc to be arranged & to be able to reach all possible builders by the means of info in club listings in the magazines.

cheers
andy

slimtater 10th May 2010 08:12 PM

I think the proposal of a club makes perfect sense. After all, in 2 years time when all the builders currently using this forum have moved on to become owners/users/drivers, it would be great to have club that focusses on being an owner/driver.
The forum would continue to offer advice, support, contacts and information sharing about the building of a Haynes book car (be it Roadster.......) but the club would be more about "well I have built it and now want to do something with it".
Lots of car clubs have a forum as an offshoot so nothing wrong with doing it the opposite way around.
As long as Haynes want it to, the forum will exist.
As long as owners of Haynes book built cars want it to, the club will exist.

David_17 10th May 2010 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slimtater (Post 37989)
I think the proposal of a club makes perfect sense. After all, in 2 years time when all the builders currently using this forum have moved on to become owners/users/drivers, it would be great to have club that focusses on being an owner/driver.
The forum would continue to offer advice, support, contacts and information sharing about the building of a Haynes book car (be it Roadster.......) but the club would be more about "well I have built it and now want to do something with it".
Lots of car clubs have a forum as an offshoot so nothing wrong with doing it the opposite way around.
As long as Haynes want it to, the forum will exist.
As long as owners of Haynes book built cars want it to, the club will exist.

When put like that, it makes perfect sense. Thanks :D

gingea1pom 10th May 2010 08:25 PM

Just to say the same thing as HandyAndy in a different way!

The forum is the most fantastic resource for someone building a Haynes roadster, whenever I chat to someone we always comment along the lines “I don’t know how I would have got as far as I have without the forum” notwithstanding the few who have built without ever finding it.

We the forum members will never own or have control of the forum, it belongs to Haynes.

We the HSCC will not have a club forum the Haynes forum will remain.

The reason we want a club is so we can belong to something along with like minded people, If you tried to go to an insurance company, organise a track day or get discount from a major supplier and said we are the Haynes Forum I don’t think it would have as much clout as we are the Haynes Sports Car Club.

I want to go to a club web site and look up club events and go along with my club Polo shirt on with my keys on a club key ring and make friends for life with like minded individuals, I want to have a club stand at Stoneleigh with a marquee with a big banner with a few club members cars out the front talking to interested individuals all day long, inviting them to join the club.

With a forum there is no command and control, no one to hold accountable. A club will work much better.

Cheers Ginge

gingea1pom 10th May 2010 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urmyworld (Post 37952)
Hello,

As I am still sorting out legal stuff with regards a Chat Room.

If you are interested in a sneak preview

click on this link

http://www.hotconference.com/conference,23372722

I will be there for the next hour.

After that time this room will be password protected again, after all it is my personal room, you are all welcome to ask me questions via video, audio or text chat.

Dave

Dave,

I missed this by 20 minutes but clicked it any way.

Wow my inbuilt camera in the laptop sprung into life, I kind of want to give it a go now.

If we had a chat room for members only I could see me getting no sleep.

I personally, without giving it any thought, love the idea.

Cheers Ginge

Bonzo 10th May 2010 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gingea1pom (Post 37996)
Just to say the same thing as HandyAndy in a different way!

The forum is the most fantastic resource for someone building a Haynes roadster, whenever I chat to someone we always comment along the lines “I don’t know how I would have got as far as I have without the forum” notwithstanding the few who have built without ever finding it.

We the forum members will never own or have control of the forum, it belongs to Haynes.

We the HSCC will not have a club forum the Haynes forum will remain.

The reason we want a club is so we can belong to something along with like minded people, If you tried to go to an insurance company, organise a track day or get discount from a major supplier and said we are the Haynes Forum I don’t think it would have as much clout as we are the Haynes Sports Car Club.

I want to go to a club web site and look up club events and go along with my club Polo shirt on with my keys on a club key ring and make friends for life with like minded individuals, I want to have a club stand at Stoneleigh with a marquee with a big banner with a few club members cars out the front talking to interested individuals all day long, inviting them to join the club.

With a forum there is no command and control, no one to hold accountable. A club will work much better.

Cheers Ginge

I'll second each and every word of that Ginge :)

---------------------------------------------------------

Here' a little yarn from me !!

Life long fabricator welder & mechanics runs through my blood.

My late father was ex Fleet Air Arm, airframe fitter & engineer..... When he retired , He was Chief Engineer in Britannia Airways ( Luton airport )

All of us boys were taught to do all of our own fixing on all things mechanical ;)

To the point of my yarn !!??

Could I have built my car without the help of this forum ? ...." Probably "

Would I have completed my build or had an even better build ? ..... Hell, NO .... With my ongoing health problems, I would have given the build up ages ago :eek:

It is thanks to each and every forum member that I have the desire & motivation to get my build completed & on the Road.

The thought of turning up at Stoneleigh in my own build, keeps me going :)

gingea1pom 10th May 2010 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 38013)
I'll second each and every word of that Ginge :)

Thank you Ronnie

tkpm 10th May 2010 09:43 PM

Well said Ronnie

Bonzo 10th May 2010 09:56 PM

Sorry to say this David, I think your last post needs to be deleted promptly

This is not the kind of post that can be tollerated on a public forum !!?? :(

I feel I have no option, other than report this post to the forum admin as the contents of this post are libelous in content.

Take a chill pill mate, you know it makes sense :)

gingea1pom 10th May 2010 10:13 PM

Unfortunately my brother Handy Andy (The New Club Secretary, self impressed!!!)

Not self impressed (I think you mean self imposed) we voted.

Has telephoned me over the last couple of hours to let me know that he is not happy with my recent posts regarding the new "Chat Room" as if it has anything to do with him!!!

Everything to do with him, he has the clubs best interests at heart and he was voted as Secretary.

he also said he was going to come up to my house and knife me!

Hear say call the police!

The reason that he wants to knife me is because I offered my help to provide the club with a chat room.

Anyway, i am sat here without any weapons as Andy is a short person anyway, and not a threat to me.


What are you trying to do now get some sympathy, really pointless sentence.


If this is an example of the "Club's" behaviior of it's Committee Members or Club Members I wish you all the best, and good luck, you will need it.

Right committee members, I take that personally I am a committee member, what have I ever done to you except welcome you to the forum and shook your hand at Stoneligh.

We have NEVER had any trouble on the forum except your post. I do not have to stick up for Andy because mark my words there will be pages and pages of people denouncing you and championing Andy.

You have lost my friend it was nice to meat you, how wrong a first impression can be, I will do my upmost to get you removed as a user, not a threat, a promise.

Tatey 10th May 2010 10:16 PM

David I have to say I agree with Bonzo in all respect in regards to your post. It is not the kind of thing to be posted on a public forum, regardless if it is true or not.

This forum has never had any 'bitchy' behaviour, and I really don't hope you damage the spirited community of this forum by making such serious accusations against another member, especially your brother.

I also can't see Andy being capable of making such comments towards another person, especially over such a trivial mater.

Bonzo 10th May 2010 10:38 PM

For what it is worth here is my viewpoint.

As an elected general committee member, I do feel that I have been slighted by David's comments :(

I might add, comments made by a person that has an axe to grind for reasons only known to their self :confused:

Having known Andy both pesonally & profesionally for the best part of 18 months .... I am left in no doubt that he has the best interests of the forum & Haynes Sports Car Club at heart.
I am confident that Andy will work himself to a standstill for the benefit of one & all.

I am sure that the Committee are very gratefull of your offer of web hosting & video conferencing David but I am sure that the clubs IT committee members have things well covered !!

Sorry to say this David, If you have joined this forum for some kind of ulterior motive .... I think it best you bow out gracefully :rolleyes:

This forum is a happy place, I for one, want to keep it this way :)

twinturbo 10th May 2010 10:42 PM

UNOFFICIAL THREAD LOCK

Cool Down Time.

les g 10th May 2010 10:43 PM

Please dont drag this forum down to the same levels as other forums......
this forum has only been so successful because it has been self-regulating and driven on with goodwill, and a whole heap of banter....

We were present at the meeting at Stoneleigh and can assure anyone who is interested that the meeting was held in as sincere and professional a manner as was needed to be , to set the groundings for a club .

Handyandy has been influential in setting up the club agreed ,but there has/had been plenty of time for nominations of club officers..and those there voted as they saw fit..
if Andy does a crap job, at the next agm we,re sure there are enough people with a spine to say so and vote accordingly ( personally we have faith in Andy )

It is a club people have the right to join or not .....
its not a compulsory part of using this forum.to be a member of the club
please remember we live in a democracy.....

please remove your post and dont bring your squabbles on here as it only attracts the type of people this forum ..DOES NOT NEED
thank you
Les g and TJ

twinturbo 10th May 2010 10:47 PM

UNOFFICIAL THREAD LOCK

Cool Down Time

Davey 10th May 2010 11:39 PM

WTF???

Today I have paid my last respects to a friend of 20 years, my wife and daughters have provided a spread for over 100 people and everyone has been nothing but friendly and sociable, revelling in the life of the deceased, no major sadness and no nastiness.

I come on here late at night to see what's happening and what do I find? ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS being spouted from one brother to another!

David, you need a reality check my friend, speak to your brother via the phone before you post on the forum, please?

Apologising after the event doesn't cut the mustard, just don't do it!

I volunteered as a general committee member just like Bonzo and I too take offence at your slight of committee members in general based on your own personal disagreement with your brother!

Sort out your arguments in private and present a united front please!

D.

AshG 11th May 2010 12:15 PM

I have only just seen this.

This kind of thing is totally out of order.

First and last warning. Even though Haynes run the forum its not impossible to have members banned.

baz-r 11th May 2010 01:19 PM

i cant beleve my eyes :(
people get a grip of your selfs please for this forum and the new club to be.

to be honest this is no place for such comments.

also there is no reason why this forum and the new club cant run in harmony side by side.

one is a club and the other is a forum. some people may wish to be on one or both

some people may wish to join just the forum to get an idea before thay even start where as the commited would also be a club as well

Davey 11th May 2010 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baz-r (Post 38056)
i cant beleve my eyes :(
people get a grip of your selfs please for this forum and the new club to be.

to be honest this is no place for such comments.

also there is no reason why this forum and the new club cant run in harmony side by side.

one is a club and the other is a forum. some people may wish to be on one or both

some people may wish to join just the forum to get an idea before thay even start where as the commited would also be a club as well


Here's a bottle of rum and your an ambulance:D :D !

D.

CaptainCrash1971 11th May 2010 09:35 PM

I haven't followed this thread for a few days, so reading it today made my heart sink a little, I was concerned it had sunk to the level of other forums on here. Reading the last few pages has just made me grateful that I have been using this forum for a few weeks, it's not a good impression to new members on here.
Personally I think that the posts that have been made should now be deleted if anyone has the power to do so, to protect the integrity of this forum.

I am also all for the owners club, it's an excellent idea and will be really good to have a group of like minded loons that can meet up and enjoy their cars together.

I also want to be able to tell people I own a Haynes Roadster, and the same as Ginge, I want my HSCC t-shirt, keyring and mug.

I wasn't able to make the club AGM at Stoneleigh, and so I am more than happy to go along with the crowd. I don't feel I'm in any position to belittle the good work that everyone has put in so far. Let's just get on with setting up the club, pop the toys back in the pram, and restore OUR lovely forum back to it's former glory.
Rant over :)

spud69 11th May 2010 10:31 PM

Same here Bob, having hardly been on the forum recently i've just come upto date with this.

Basically i can't believe that anybody is questioning the Integrity of particular individuals and that certain things have been said in posts. The main reason that i cant be bothered with other forums is that you always seem to have to worry about what is being said behind your back or what comments or posts you might be missing out on, Haynes forum being much more laid back and relaxed and fun to be around for as long or as short as you care to be each day.

The club is an excellent idea and is just the step forward that the Haynes builders is ready for, having spent the stoneleigh weekend on a stand opposite the Westfield Sports Cars Club stand its easy to get an appreciation for the size and popularity that these clubs can attract. WSCC being the biggest stand at the show.

Having spent a lot of time working with HAndy and also knowing other forum members quite well i cant believe anybodys integrity or amount of effort being put into development of this club, for the benefit of builders and not individuals, is being questioned. Just wish i had time to be more involved but as i have said previously any way that Saturn can assist as a company. The type of effort that Bonzo is putting in for the bolt packs, fantastic value, is a fantastic example of the type of benefits a club will be to builders.

I know plenty has been said but i couldn't sit back and say nothing, after being involved with the Forum for 2 years i've never seen anything like this over that time, sure we can all get back to normal.

Regards.....AndyH

ps - not sure how you can say you are passionate about a forum after 7 posts.


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