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big_wasa 18th October 2010 04:48 PM

I wouldnt worry to much about the 130 manifold. The ports are bigger but the casting is rough.

Once running on the standard ecu you wont want to bother with the Ms.

alga 18th October 2010 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinturbo (Post 47024)
If your running closed loop lambda control then th ECU should manage to keep the fueling in trim.

That should take care of idle and cruising speeds, but AFAIK the ECUs break out of closed loop mode once the throttle is more than halfway open.

Bonzo 19th October 2010 10:20 AM

!!!???!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twinturbo (Post 47024)
If your running closed loop lambda control then th ECU should manage to keep the fueling in trim.

TT

I was with you right up to the bit where you said the " Closed loop lambda control " bit :D :o

Guessing that this is a standard function to the OEM's lambda sensor & ecu ??

Albert

That part of the engine management is still a mystery to me at the moment !!

When I get to the engine running side of things, i'll get my " Going back to school " head on

__________________________________________________ _____________

Had a good trip to the breakers yesterday.

Managed to find the correct 1.8/2.0 litre, plastic inlet manifold, as was said, a fair bit of size difference to the inlets.
Also collected 1.8 & 2.0 litre throttle bodys + a 2.0 litre injector rail, complete with injectors.

Junior went arround & collected me a good assortment of steering knuckles for my steering shaft mod.

Ohhh & a replacement drivers seat for my eldest's Escort van .

The final tally was £20 for the whole lot, well pleased with that as £10 of that was for the seat :)

MOT for my Jeep tomorrow, I guess that will curtail my build progress for a few days

alga 19th October 2010 11:44 AM

It's really simple, Ronnie. You're right, it's a function of a stock ECU with a lambda sensor. Most aftermarket ECUs do this as well. Closed Loop is when the ECU adjusts fuelling in a feedback loop: too much unburnt oxygen in the exhaust -- increase fuel, too little -- decrease fuel. This way the engine operates very close to the ideal stoichiometric air/fuel ratio by constantly oscillating around it.

alga 19th October 2010 04:04 PM

BTW, here's a nice site about Ford EFI systems with a gentle introduction:
http://fordfuelinjection.com/

I'm going to try and get the stock ECU to work, too.

Bonzo 19th October 2010 04:24 PM

Thank you Albert
 
Thank you for that link :cool:

I will have a darn good read of the info there :)

big_wasa 19th October 2010 06:16 PM

The zetec runs really nice on the standard ecu. Ive done 7 now I think.

I did my mates and it passed iva on that side of it first time.

Mine

If any one locall is breaking an st170 or 2.0 duratec I would love a go at wiring one of them.

fabbyglass 19th October 2010 07:03 PM

All this ecu business baffles me why can't things be simple anymore...:o

big_wasa 19th October 2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fabbyglass (Post 47133)
All this ecu business baffles me why can't things be simple anymore...:o

They are simple :D easier than that sticky smelly resin stuff :p

twinturbo 19th October 2010 07:11 PM

It is simple.

TT


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