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The V8 Files 10th July 2012 10:21 PM

Looking forward to some more pics Kev, I do like reading your build :D

K4KEV 11th July 2012 08:16 PM

Here you go then DoS
checked my roll bar this morning and I am a little disappointed as its got a little bit of orange peel about it.....nothing that a little wet and dry won't fix ....just more work
Started on the chassis tonight..yyaaaaaayyyy its first coat of grey....moving on to white fairly soon.....here sum piccies



robo 11th July 2012 09:34 PM

That is more than just a coat of paint its a milestone. I am gobsmacked by the amount of effort thats gone into the cleaning up of all the build parts in this project, I dont have the enthusiasm so its sand blasting for me:o . Anyway paints nearly done so its spanner time soon :cool:

Bob

K4KEV 12th July 2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robo (Post 75817)
That is more than just a coat of paint its a milestone. I am gobsmacked by the amount of effort thats gone into the cleaning up of all the build parts in this project, I dont have the enthusiasm so its sand blasting for me:o . Anyway paints nearly done so its spanner time soon

Bob

milestone or millstone:confused: ....ha...there are deeper reasons behind the way I have attacked this project ...maybe I will divulge them one day...the nice thing is Bob...
most of the other stuff is done and it will be nice to start to bolt things on in the knowledge they are there to stay.....to see paint on the chassis is defo a milestone as it feels "final".. I suspect the same feeling when the last snagging point is done and the iva is booked.....having said that I have forgotten about first engine start and rolling ......well I have those to look forward too also:D :D

The V8 Files 12th July 2012 09:27 PM

Must feel good getting to that stage :) I'm definitely looking forward to seeing your final build progress and seeing it all come together.

K4KEV 13th July 2012 11:57 AM

Now it is in White....which will make coverage much easier to see when I do the 2k grey top coat...which I have found if you get just right looks like powder coating....one of the other bonus's I will have is the Sikaflex I will be using to bond stuff is nigh on a perfect colour match
so here it is in white primer.

robo 13th July 2012 04:46 PM

Kev what are you spraying the chassis with,is it a full size gun or an airbrush?

Bob

K4KEV 13th July 2012 05:34 PM

Rob.....all the priming has been done with rattle cans ..simply because they were
litre for litre cheaper than buying primer and thinners (£2.45 400ml can) but not only that they are acrylic which ties in with the 2k acrylic top coat that I have, celly would not have liked that:mad: .....the other spraying I have been doing has been done with a cheap and cheerfull ebay mini spraygun like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Spray-Gun-...ht_1675wt_1063
it has the bonus of not needing to set pressure as it has both fluid and air control screws.....a little patience and it does reward you with a credible finish.

robo 13th July 2012 07:19 PM

Thats the nuts that gun it would save its price in the paint saving let alone the kin mess and grief of overspray on everything. I going to get one:) Kev can you stand the roll bar up the right way its making me nervous looking at it:eek:

Bob

Oscar 13th July 2012 09:12 PM

Hey Kev,

Was just re-reading the bit about the headlight supports (a link in another thread sent me there, I noticed my name and got curious :D ) and only just realised what you said:

Oval bar made by squashing round bar?!?! :eek:

Why didn't I think of that? Was starting to plan buying oval justfor that bit!!!

Did you need to apply any heat during the process or just take it carefully?

K4KEV 13th July 2012 10:44 PM

hi Oscar..... tube wall needs to be a minimum of 2mm and you will need a hefty vice and an extension bar to increase pressure on vice toggle/handle then it is just steady pressure until it deforms into an oval but take care not to use too much pressure or it will start to deform into a figure of 8.....the ideal vice jaws would need to be around 1" x 5" no heat was used.

K4KEV 14th July 2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robo (Post 75897)
Thats the nuts that gun it would save its price in the paint saving let alone the kin mess and grief of overspray on everything. I going to get one:) Kev can you stand the roll bar up the right way its making me nervous looking at it:eek:

Bob

don't worry it is well fastened:p ......yep at that price it is a steal even if you chuck it away when done....the other thing I forgot to mention was its spray pattern which you already touched on...it is about 1"circle at 6-8" so yep there is very little overspray which in turn leads to far less mess and dust everywhere, if I were panel spraying I would think twice as a "fan" pattern would be more efficient.
I have used it many many times now as an airbrush on steriods and my bigger guns are and have been collecting dust for the last 2 years so yes I would recommend this little gem for intricate touch up or chassis spraying.

flyerncle 14th July 2012 07:26 PM

I agree that little gun is a cracker after seeing the outcome of it last night,cheers for the fan Kev and it was good to catch up with you again.

Citroen sorted ?

Johno 14th July 2012 08:12 PM

Once again looking very nice indeed...:cool:
It's a nice sight to see the chassis in some colour. It's a shame to think most of it will be covered in...
Looking forward to seeing more photos along the way...:)

Johno

K4KEV 14th July 2012 09:46 PM

Well, just my pedal box to paint now......got the painting of the chassis complete today and chuffed with the outcome as it is the first time I have used 2k paint and I was well impressed with the finish (see shine in photo's)....now I just need a good wesh .....(wash in mackemspeak).....wowser to think I can start putting bits on in a few days time ooooo oooo now Kev calm down calm down......gonna hammerite the g/box next
photy's now




robo 15th July 2012 11:13 AM

And chuffed you should be:) I see what you mean about the small gun , it hasn`t gagged a ton of paint on there has it .Its now ready for a spanner attack :cool:

Bob

Oscar 15th July 2012 01:16 PM

Fantastic paint job! But did you forget to put your drill battery somewhere safe? :D

Carefull not scratch it as you bolt all those bits on!

Will definately be trying the squished tube trick, will let you know when I mess it up...

HandyAndy 15th July 2012 07:37 PM

:eek: Stunning work Kev .......as per usual from you :cool:

I really like that chassis , the extra bracing & all the "little" touches etc, obviously a well thought out build from start to finish :cool:

Can,t wait to see the finished car, its gonna be a cracker :cool:

cheers
andy

Johno 15th July 2012 07:44 PM

Hi Kev,
Looks like you've got the painting bug now...:D Where's it all gonna end.:eek:
Superb paint job there matey.:cool:

Johno

alga 16th July 2012 07:12 PM

Johno ir right! Now when it comes to interior trim I would not be surprised if you mastered the leatherwork on a sewing machine!

K4KEV 17th July 2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alga (Post 76070)
Johno ir right! Now when it comes to interior trim I would not be surprised if you mastered the leatherwork on a sewing machine!

It just so happens!!!!!:p ...nah...had not even thought of interior yet Albert....but hey you never know
Again thanks for all the positive comments guys.....am hoping to take out the wiring loom out of the sierra soon and sort out the stuff I do not want also would like to get the floor on so keep watching there will be an update/piccies soon

voucht 17th July 2012 07:57 PM

I haven't been on the forum for almost a week (travelling in France), and I really want to congratulate you for the chassis, it looks really good... I wish mine could look as good :eek:
Good job mate :cool:

K4KEV 21st July 2012 11:52 PM

aaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggghhhh



AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHH:mad:



PHEW....TFFT


vmax1974 22nd July 2012 12:38 AM

Would it be spaghetti time kev

robo 22nd July 2012 09:07 AM

Yuk. I hate electrickery. All those supposed wires are really just lots of tubes filled with smoke ready to leak at the first opportunity:eek: :eek: good luck with that lot Kev

Bob:p

robo 28th July 2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K4KEV (Post 61764)
fancied doing something different to keep up my interest so I'm embarking on the task of making my own ally fuel tank.
I have always thought the book tank was way to small so at the expense of "boot" space I have decided to make my tank in a shape that utilises the area above the diff as well.....I have also decided on 3mm aluminium which might seem overkill but I believe that in a rear end collision it is far more likely to deform rather than rupture and that in its self should create a kind of crumple zone which adds further peace of mind it will have two internal baffles to keep "slosh" down to a minimum and either a sump or swirl pot in the base to cater for fuel injection, capacity is 57.5 litres might yet add a little more to the top to bring it up to 60 not sure yet
Going to do this in my usual methodical way which to to make a cardboard mock up and when I am satisfied with that I will make a template then a sheet metal folder to initiate the construction proper....so for now here is the mock up in cardboard ...it needs a wee bit of fettling yet
if any one is interested I might be making some more but they wont be cheap due to the amount of work involved and the fact that they are 3mm thick



Did you do much more on the long range tank Kev ?

Bob

K4KEV 28th July 2012 09:05 PM

not yet Bob....want to sort the wiring out....sierra loom now half the weight that it was, but I have just been to look at the 200sx's engine loom/ecu....sh*t it looks like a sierra loom untouched ...gonna spend tomoz taking that engine out and into the shed with it. then I will be able to get to all the loom need g/box end of prop shaft anyway .....not got a lot done lately due to nice gardening weather (my other passion)
I will get around to completing the tank pretty soon I hope as the other thing I need is the fuel sender from the 200sx .

K4KEV 26th September 2012 10:19 AM

crikey ...long time since I posted on my build, currently at the stage of routing wiring loom also trying to splice in the ca18det engine/ecu loom which is a bit of a nightmare.... so many sensors etc....anyway will soon be time for me to lift off the loom to start floors and fitting mechanicals. It will come together very quickly then, as most of the other stuff I have already made, so expect a hive of activity over the next few weeks....as ever a few photo's



K4KEV 1st October 2012 12:37 AM

been busy prepping and cutting the floors and now at the stage of drilling and countersinking, then I am hoping tomorrow will see me with sikaflex and rivet gun
decided on 3mm ally sheet fixed at 2.5" spacing with 4mm countersunk sealed rivets
temp fixed and waiting to be marked for rivets

drilling holes

now countersinking the holes to allow a totally flush fit with coiuntersunk rivets

K4KEV 2nd October 2012 10:18 PM

managed to get the offside floor sealed and riveted on.....I'm pleased I chose csk rivets because a quick check of my side panels inner dimension top to bottom leaves no room to spare.....had I used plain rivets it would have been a "force on" issue or remove a lip....phew.
drilled up the nearside floor, so will be mounting that proper tomoz
here come the piccies



spud69 3rd October 2012 07:37 AM

Looks nice Kevin but you may need to clear some room to work in there ;)

It's only when people fit 2mm chequer plate to the floor it becomes a tight fit.

Andy

robo 3rd October 2012 08:02 AM

Would the lower outer chassis rail going forward of the floorpan now need a 3mm strip put on to maintain the same line when the side panels go on.?


bob

spud69 3rd October 2012 08:08 AM

No there is enough give for the lip to pull in to the lower chassis rail, or if in doubt you can use a washer to space it out a little bit.

Cheers........Andy

K4KEV 3rd October 2012 12:44 PM

Rob....yep, am going to put a full 1" strip all the way along to give them total rigidity.
Andy....as above really did think about a packing piece or washers but then thought for rigidity and no allowance for movement would reduce the possibiltity of stress fractures, not only that .....I'm bluddy fussy:cool:

robo 3rd October 2012 11:05 PM

I like the idea of the 3mm ali floor, its probably rigid enough to bolt the seat runners too without the need for any extra supports.:cool: I have been a believer in a decent floor since a local lad left the road in a car and ended up with a fencing stake between his legs:eek: that was very close to being an enema:eek: :eek:

Bob

Davidbolam 4th October 2012 01:23 PM

I think I used a 3mm floor with normal rivets. Will the side panels fit over these? (saturn ones)

David.

p.s sorry for the thread hijack

spud69 4th October 2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davidbolam (Post 78758)
I think I used a 3mm floor with normal rivets. Will the side panels fit over these? (saturn ones)

David.

p.s sorry for the thread hijack

Hi david,

I've got no problem casting a 15cm strip of the relevant bit out of the side panel mold if you want to give it a try. Should be fine, fabby did make them a tight fit though, but best to be sure.

Regards.....Andy

K4KEV 4th October 2012 01:52 PM

hi Dave ....you could always countersink or drill the inside of the bottom of the panels where the pop rivets touch

K4KEV 4th October 2012 09:24 PM

Bob....the 3mm stuff was left over from the soon to be finished tank , seemed a shame not to use it for the floor....I came to the conclusion that 3mm for the tanks is/was overkill so my tank will remain the only one in 3mm ally.
Busy bending my 8mm copper fuel pipes at the mo and have decided it will be a lot easier to 'P' clip everything down one side of the tunnel this way I will only need 10 fasteners to hold petrol pipes (feed and return) and brake pipe in the trans tunnel area.....how you might say ...well watch this space.

spud69 4th October 2012 09:40 PM

Don't forget Kevin that there is a minimum spacing for clipping of pipes along the tranny tunnel, sure it's every 6" but check this first (don't have my IVA manual on this computer and my brain is not working)

Also dont post again, you're on 666 posts - Cool

Andy


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