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skov 3rd February 2012 10:52 PM

Starting to look like a car now :cool:


james3004 4th February 2012 10:46 AM

Looks Great John!
If you needed a hand getting it off the build table you should have given me a call I'd have popped over to give you a lift!;)

skov 4th February 2012 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james3004 (Post 70316)
Looks Great John!
If you needed a hand getting it off the build table you should have given me a call I'd have popped over to give you a lift!;)

Bugger, didn't think of that! Probably would have saved me wrecking my shoulder an crushing my toes in the process :rolleyes:
Thanks anyway James :)

skov 5th February 2012 02:51 PM

No progress on the car this weekend, but I did manage to build something else:





Is it just me or does anyone else turn into a big kid when it snows :D

tkpm 5th February 2012 03:52 PM

Whats Snow? :rolleyes:


Terry

skov 5th February 2012 04:09 PM

I take it you haven't been blessed with any down in Devon :p
We woke up to 4 or 5 inches of it. Just a shames there's no hills out here in the Fens :(

michael92 5th February 2012 04:17 PM

haha! awesome! looks like the hitcher off the mighty boosh!

tkpm 5th February 2012 04:21 PM

The sun is shining, the dog been for a 5 mile walk. It's realy nice winters day.


Terry

stew 5th February 2012 05:39 PM

haha, brilliant john. :)


we have no snow where i live in scotland, but other areas do have. seems like its been south of the borders turn this time!!!

good progress with the car btw! :)

Johno 5th February 2012 05:52 PM

Car looking sweet John,
I notice on the photo you have negative camber on your rear wheel. Do you still have plenty of adjustment on the lower wishbone even with a half locking nut in place to take this out?
The reason I ask is Lukes car is the same as your photo but has little adjustment left to take this out.
Is it possible for you to measure the centres of both top and bottom wishbones (centre of bush to centre of hub upright fixing point) please...:)
I just want to check that our wishbones are the same as yours as we made ours to SSC drawings and I know yours are from Andy..

Cheers Johno....ps I think we had the worst of the snow in our area as I had to dig our cars out..

Davidbolam 5th February 2012 09:52 PM

Nice to see the build pictures coming along.

Did you take any measurements or did you draw a diagram when you made the engine mounts? I am using a 1.6 myself and want to get around the bonet clearance problems.

If so please can I have the details


David

skov 6th February 2012 05:35 AM

Haha, it does look a bit "Solo Polo Peeper" now you mention it Michael :)

Johno - that rear wheel is only on there very loosely at the moment, which might be why it's sat at that angle.
I'll try to remember to investigate and take some measurements next time I'm out there.

David, if you look through my photos there should be a load with measurements showing my intended engine position.
Essentially I've just got the sump 40mm below the bottom rail, and the engine offset to the passenger side by 25mm.
I've also purchased an inlet manifold from a Mk2 1.6 recently, which may or may not help with bonnet clearance - watch this space!

skov 7th February 2012 01:17 PM

My lovely shiny protechs arrived from NTS today :D


skov 8th February 2012 09:29 PM

I'm now officially rolling :D :D :D



Couldn't resist getting in and going for an imaginary drive!

HandyAndy 11th February 2012 03:20 PM

Looking great :cool:

Nice to see that chassis on wheels :)

Did you make "brum brum" noises ? :p we,ve all done it , well maybe under our breath :D

cheers
andy

skov 11th February 2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandyAndy (Post 70566)
Did you make "brum brum" noises ?

I certainly did!
Though to be honest it was a bit more "crazy frog" than "brum brum" :D

Cheers Andy, I have to say it was great feeling getting it on it's wheels, I couldn't stop grinning for a while :)

skov 13th February 2012 11:20 AM

Got my Battery today. A dinky little Odyssey PC680, which should fit nicely in the passenger footwell without taking up too much leg room (not that I particularly care about passenger legroom!)


mark 13th February 2012 12:02 PM

Fitted the same to my car last year when I upgraded and its spot on

Reasonably powerful for its size too

Mine came off the road at the end of September and the battery has been disconnected whilst Ive been tinkering, just got it all back together a couple of weeks ago and the battery cranked it over perfectly, as if it had just been charged that day!

skov 13th February 2012 01:55 PM

Hi Mark, that's good to know thanks!

I've got an optimate kicking around somewhere which I plan to use to keep it in tip top condition. The chances of me actually remembering to use it are pretty slim though :rolleyes:

james3004 13th February 2012 03:13 PM

Where did you get the battery from john, that's what I've been looking at for my build

skov 13th February 2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james3004 (Post 70621)
Where did you get the battery from john, that's what I've been looking at for my build

Hi James, I got it off ebay for £80 posted. That was the cheapest I could find!
I just checked and the seller I got it from doesn't seem to have any more listed :(

andysredmini 15th February 2012 01:48 PM

Hi Skov.
Do you mind me asking where you positioned your seat belt anchorages (cp18). I am building a Saturn based mx5 chassis and have come to position them 140mm (from the back edge) from the front face of br12 as per the book but they are clashing with tt6 on the transmission tunnel.
I’m either think of cutting the anchorage down to retain the original measurement or pulling the whole bracket back so that it mates to the rear face of tt6.

Many thanks

Andy

skov 15th February 2012 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andysredmini (Post 70669)
Hi Skov.
Do you mind me asking where you positioned your seat belt anchorages (cp18). I am building a Saturn based mx5 chassis and have come to position them 140mm (from the back edge) from the front face of br12 as per the book but they are clashing with tt6 on the transmission tunnel.
I’m either think of cutting the anchorage down to retain the original measurement or pulling the whole bracket back so that it mates to the rear face of tt6.

Hi Andy, I'm pretty sure I put mine in the book position.
Are you sure you've got TT6 in the right place? It should be in the book position too, so there shouldn't be a clash :confused:

The position of the bottom anchorages isn't critical as far as I'm aware though, so moving them forwards or back a bit shouldn't be a problem.

andysredmini 15th February 2012 02:53 PM

Thanks Skov. You were correct about tt6 being in the wrong position. I had them 50mm to close to the back.
Luckily its only a drawing i'm working on. hopefully i cut my steel to the guide and not my drawing. Ill check when i get home.

Thanks again

Andy.

skov 21st February 2012 06:48 AM

Didn't do too much on the build last week what with valentines day :rolleyes: followed by the winter vomiting bug running wild through the household...

I did venture out on Saturday and managed to revisit my steering shafts/linkages.

I've now done it the same as the Saturn guide, rather than my original way which involved bodging a chopped up sierra column in there:







Worth noting that I used rally design part RD820F for the shaft to rack linkage, rather than the RD850 suggested in version 3 of the Saturn guide (which I suspect might be a typo!)

stew 21st February 2012 07:43 PM

looks good john. :) gonna be a real tidy car.


ive loads to update on mine, but not had a chance in a while. still wish i was further on, but enjoyin the build i guess!! lol

dying of the flu currently! :(

skov 21st February 2012 07:58 PM

Thanks Stew :)
Hope you're feeling better soon!
My work place paid for us all to have flu shots back in the autumn, so I won't be getting that thankfully.
Hasn't stopped me getting ill with every other bug doing the rounds though!
Make sure you get some pics up soon, it'd be good to see how you're getting on :cool:

skov 6th March 2012 11:56 PM

Finally got around to finishing my front diff mount last week.
I started it months ago before it had been added to the Saturn guide, which is why it's a tad different.





It's bolted to a plate on the chassis via a pair of landrover engine mounts, and to the diff itself using a pair of M12 bolts.
The holes in the diff were a bit bigger than 12mm, so I sleeved them down with some ali tube to get a nice tight fit.
I'm not 100% happy about using the rubber mounts in shear, but I think (hope!) they'll be ok.

On a seperate note I replaced the OEM bushes in the rear uprights with some Strongflex ones this evenning:





It didn't seem right leaving them as 15 year old perished rubber when the rest of the suspension uses polybushes!
And as an added bonus Strongflex very kindly supplied them with 12mm internal diameter crush tubes rather than their 10mm MX5 ones.
I got them to do that so they match the 12mm holes in the Saturn wishbones, and mean I can fit M12 bolts.

CTWV50 7th March 2012 12:42 PM

How much were the bushes and crush tubes John? And have you got a link for the tube you're using on the bottom. Just picked up yet another bottle of gas so I'm back to the grind again literally.:)

Oh and the steering shaft from the column to rack UJ, what are you using?

skov 7th March 2012 01:00 PM

Glad to see you've come out of hibernation Chris :D

Here's the tube I inserted into the lower holes in the rear uprights (you need 80mm per side if memory serves me correctly):

STEEL PRECISION TUBE 14mm OD x 300mm LONG 1mm WALL

And these are the bushes I stuck in the top of the uprights (£22.70 for a pair):

Mazda MX-5 Rear Upper Inner & Outer Suspension Bush SPORT poly STRONGFLEX

My column to rack UJ is rally design part# RD820F

Hope that helps!

CTWV50 7th March 2012 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skov (Post 71150)
Glad to see you've come out of hibernation Chris :D

Here's the tube I inserted into the lower holes in the rear uprights (you need 80mm per side if memory serves me correctly):

STEEL PRECISION TUBE 14mm OD x 300mm LONG 1mm WALL

And these are the bushes I stuck in the top of the uprights (£22.70 for a pair):

Mazda MX-5 Rear Upper Inner & Outer Suspension Bush SPORT poly STRONGFLEX

My column to rack UJ is rally design part# RD820F

Hope that helps!

Yes it's warmer now so I thought I'd get in the garage again and do a bit.

I've ordered the tube, thank you, but for the bushes did you just spec the 12mm int.dia. crush tube or do you have to speak with them first?

Understood you're using the RD820F for the rack UJ but what about the entention between it and the mazda column is it a sierra part or is it an extended mazda part.

Cheers

Chris

skov 7th March 2012 03:14 PM

For the bushes I sent them a message asking if they could do them with 12mm internal diameter crush tubes. They replied saying no problem, and just told me to add a note saying that when I placed the order.

My steering column/shaft/linkages are pretty much the same as the Saturn/NTS build guide now.
The top part of the steering shaft is from the MX5, and the bottom part is the Rally Design steering shaft (RD849).
The bit joining them together is just some chunky mild steel tube (3mm wall I think). I couldn't tell you the diameter though - I just took the Rally Design shaft to my local steel supplier, and they let me stick it in various bits of tube until I found one that was a snug fit!

CTWV50 7th March 2012 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skov (Post 71154)
For the bushes I sent them a message asking if they could do them with 12mm internal diameter crush tubes. They replied saying no problem, and just told me to add a note saying that when I placed the order.

My steering column/shaft/linkages are pretty much the same as the Saturn/NTS build guide now.
The top part of the steering shaft is from the MX5, and the bottom part is the Rally Design steering shaft (RD849).
The bit joining them together is just some chunky mild steel tube (3mm wall I think). I couldn't tell you the diameter though - I just took the Rally Design shaft to my local steel supplier, and they let me stick it in various bits of tube until I found one that was a snug fit!

You are "THE MAN" ! Thank You. Your Build has moved on somewhat since I last logged in. I am some-what in shock at your progress.:eek:

skov 9th March 2012 01:23 PM

Yep, you've got some catching up to do :p

Got my NTS pedal box fitted last night, that was a bit of a chore...
If anyone's reading this - unless you have arms like Mr Tickle, make sure you bolt the pedal box in place BEFORE you fit the side panels, scuttle, and scuttle bulk head...
Could I reach both sides of the box at the same time to tighten the bolts up? Could I bugger!

HandyAndy 9th March 2012 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skov (Post 71204)
If anyone's reading this - unless you have arms like Mr Tickle, make sure you bolt the pedal box in place BEFORE you fit the side panels, scuttle, and scuttle bulk head...
Could I reach both sides of the box at the same time to tighten the bolts up? Could I bugger!

:D I remember that scenario too

Also an idea to attach the clutch & throttle cables & fit the master cylinder pushrod to the pedals before fitting the side panel ;) ......otherwise you,ll end up with your upper body in the footwell with legs in the air .....don,t ask how I know :p :D

need some more pics please John, sounds like you are making great progress.

cheers
andy

skov 9th March 2012 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandyAndy (Post 71209)
....otherwise you,ll end up with your upper body in the footwell with legs in the air ...
andy

That position sounds familiar, lol
It wasn't too bad until I tried to get out again and got stuck!
I couldn't figure out how to get my head back past the steering wheel and was starting to worry I'd be stuck there all night :rolleyes:

Davidbolam 9th March 2012 10:01 PM

Hi Skov.

When you used the diff mount to secure you handbrake cable did you use the existing mx5 brackets of did you make your own?

Cheers

David

ps. can you put some photos up of your pedal assembly.

skov 9th March 2012 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davidbolam (Post 71219)
When you used the diff mount to secure you handbrake cable did you use the existing mx5 brackets of did you make your own?

Hi David, I used the existing brackets on the handbrake cables, and bolted them to the big diff washer things with M8 nuts and bolts.
I then just moved the cables, bending the brackets in the process, until they weren't fouling on anything.



I'll take some pics of the pedal box and get them posted up in the next few days.

Johno 11th March 2012 07:29 PM

Good progress,
Looking good Skov. Bl**dy hell you've been busy.:eek:
Next weekend my engine should be out of the donor so hopefully soon gonna do the sump chop...
Not forgotten our deal....:)

Johno

Eternal 18th March 2012 07:55 PM

Been searching for these....

but cant find any of them anywhere. I dont suppose you happen to have any links for them as going to need some :)


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