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Shorty 4th March 2013 01:07 PM

steering column bearing mounting
 
A this seems to be a common problem with iva I just wanted to make sure I get it right as I've seen so many different ways of fitting.
Does anyone have any pictures of how they have done it? Especially if you have passed iva.
The bearing I have ordered from ebay is SLFL1 as I read somewhere that the 1" is a better fit than the 25mm without having to machine down the bush.
Looking at it, it seems as though I could bolt straight to the 3mm plate?
Open to any suggestions

loony 4th March 2013 01:46 PM

Here's mine:


It's 25mm and I didn't have to machine down the bush - it was already machined for years of use ;)
It's bolted to straight 3mm plate and self-adjusted.

Shorty 4th March 2013 05:29 PM

That's exactly as I was wanting to do it.
Why don't you have the plate covering the full width?

loony 5th March 2013 07:39 AM

I'm not sure if I want it under or over TR8 - it depends on engine/headers position in relation to steering column... and I think it's stiff enough ;)

twinturbo 5th March 2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loony (Post 88870)
Here's mine:


It's 25mm and I didn't have to machine down the bush - it was already machined for years of use ;)
It's bolted to straight 3mm plate and self-adjusted.

Did you have to fettle the other half of the clamp to clear the top rail?

TT

loony 5th March 2013 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinturbo (Post 88888)
Did you have to fettle the other half of the clamp to clear the top rail?
TT

No - clamp (bearing housing) is untouched - looks tight but there's even about 1mm clearance between clamp and TR8 ;)

twinturbo 5th March 2013 05:55 PM

Are both parts of the housing on the outside of the mounting plate then?

TT

loony 5th March 2013 09:13 PM

Yes, they are both on the engine side of the plate.

Main hole in plate has about 60mm diameter...

jps 5th March 2013 09:26 PM

Does the bearing rotate in the mount? Our does it have to be mounted at the angle the column runs at? In the picture it looks as though the bearing is angled relative to the mount it sits in (if that makes sense?!)

loony 5th March 2013 09:42 PM

Bearing rotate in the mount until you tighten nuts - then it's quite solid mounted but at the angle.
I wonder how it will work with adjustable column, but should be ok - it doesn't need too much move...

jps 6th March 2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loony (Post 88906)
Bearing rotate in the mount until you tighten nuts - then it's quite solid mounted but at the angle.
I wonder how it will work with adjustable column, but should be ok - it doesn't need too much move...

Sounds great - not sure all of them work like that - where did you get it from?! Is it available in UK as easily as Poland? :D

will_08 6th March 2013 03:42 PM

This is pretty much what everyone else has used from what i can gather

SLFL25 LDK Pressed Steel Flange Bearing

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SLFL-SBPFL...em2 eb52066ff

£6 odd delivered :)

jps 6th March 2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will_08 (Post 88921)
This is pretty much what everyone else has used from what i can gather

SLFL25 LDK Pressed Steel Flange Bearing

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SLFL-SBPFL...em2 eb52066ff

£6 odd delivered :)

That one doesn't look like it can be angled in the mount though...?

will_08 6th March 2013 06:36 PM

I'm pretty sure it does, ill take mine out the bag and check later.

Like i said tonnes of peeps have spec'd that bearing for this job

loony 6th March 2013 08:02 PM

Yes - "SLFL25 LDK Pressed Steel Flange Bearing" it's the same type of bearing. There are minor differences in insert bearings, but they are not important (like tube length etc.)

But - it wasn't so easily available in Poland - especially housing isn't popular. Everyone (except me) prefer cast iron housing for agricultural equipement...

But I wanted "lightweight" version ;) So for my special order... I got it.

Stot 8th March 2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jps (Post 88925)
That one doesn't look like it can be angled in the mount though...?

I can confirm this one can be angled, just recieved my one from that listing.

Cheers
Stot

jps 8th March 2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stot (Post 88939)
I can confirm this one can be angled, just recieved my one from that listing.

Cheers
Stot

And i've just had one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006116904... 4.m1439.l2649

drop through the door today. Which also pivots. :-D

Stot 8th March 2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jps (Post 88943)
And i've just had one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006116904... 4.m1439.l2649

drop through the door today. Which also pivots. :-D

Aint we a pair.

Although I can also confirm that the 25mm one doesn't fit the MX5 column... :doh: I would know that if I had read the Saturn guide properly that says to buy the 205-14 (7/8") one, or even measured my column. :rolleyes:

Luckily I have some 1" bar stock that I can make a bush out of. :o

Cheers
Stot

loony 9th March 2013 01:27 PM

Looks like we have to specify what donor running gear parts fit ;)

So... to make it clear - mentioned earlier bearing fits Sierra steering column (with little bush turning or without modification).

Josh 6th August 2013 05:49 PM

Bumping this to the top rather than start a new thread.

I'm using a standard Sierra rubber bush to support my steering column - will this be good enough for IVA man?

I have also replaced the (worn) nylon collar that fits into the rubber bush, however it is a bit slack. Was thinking of turning up a PTFE collar with a retaining lip to take up the slack - again, ok for IVA man?

Cheers

jps 6th August 2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh (Post 92416)
Bumping this to the top rather than start a new thread.

I'm using a standard Sierra rubber bush to support my steering column - will this be good enough for IVA man?

I have also replaced the (worn) nylon collar that fits into the rubber bush, however it is a bit slack. Was thinking of turning up a PTFE collar with a retaining lip to take up the slack - again, ok for IVA man?

Cheers

I'd say definitely lose the rubber mount and use the bearing. reduces the chance of iva man saying there too much wiggle in the column, plus it's just a better engineered solution I think. it's not a big job to fit the bearing, I did mine a couple of week ago.

edit, plus the bearing is about 7 quid. so hardly breaking the bank!

twinturbo 6th August 2013 06:03 PM

Yeah deffo worth it. Much better location and smoother operation. You keep the part that goes over the triangular part of the collumn and don't use the outer of the nylon bearing or the rubber mount.

I did most of mine ( still to finalise ) a few months back.

TT

Josh 6th August 2013 08:39 PM

Ok you've convinced me - bearing ordered!

Next problem, I've already welded in CP16 and my chassis has been finish painted. Can this bearing be retro fitted or will I need to make new bracketry (similar to that shown in previous posts in this thread)?

Thanks!

jps 6th August 2013 08:42 PM

I just removed the angled bracket on cp16 and bolted the bearing straight to the vertical plate.

twinturbo 6th August 2013 08:50 PM

Likewise, hammer chissle , angle grinder.

Mine is not painted though, my whole car will be built up and then stripped down for final prep before full assembly as there are many things that may need tweaking as time goes on.

TT

jps 6th August 2013 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinturbo (Post 92422)
Likewise, hammer chissle , angle grinder.

Mine is not painted though, my whole car will be built up and then stripped down for final prep before full assembly as there are many things that may need tweaking as time goes on.

TT

out of interest tt, how are you dealing with rivnuts? and anything that will be riveted on (panels, brackets, brake lines, etc)? is everything just offered up and temporary clamped bit by bit?

Josh 8th August 2013 08:29 PM

Bearing arrived this morning, removed the sloped rubber bush support and bolted the bearing on - much better! Steering feels nice and solid now, thanks for the help :)


twinturbo 8th August 2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jps (Post 92424)
out of interest tt, how are you dealing with rivnuts? and anything that will be riveted on (panels, brackets, brake lines, etc)? is everything just offered up and temporary clamped bit by bit?

My main cable/pipe runs are on service trays that are rivnutted at large intervals, clips/clamps are then fitted to the service tray.

Bodywork is either self cutting screws or rivnuts.

There are a few areas of brake pipe work that will be directly attached to the chassis but this will also be with self cutting screws.

The floor pan, trans tunnel sides, seat back, lower firewalls are permenantly fixed.


the re-build should only take a couple of days once everything is planned and trial built.

TT


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