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axle 25th November 2009 03:05 PM

Rear Disc Brake Cable
 
Hi
Can anybody tell me if the car was fitted with the rear disc brake. Would the cable need to be shortend.

gingea1pom 25th November 2009 03:20 PM

Yes
 
Yes, in a word:D

The distance from your Roadster hand break to the rear callipers is shorter than the distance from the Sierra hand break to the rear callipers unless you are installing rear seats!:confused:

I stand to be corrected!:p

Cheers Ginge

axle 25th November 2009 03:45 PM

Hi
Thanks for your reply, how are the ends recrimped or resoldered again?

gingea1pom 25th November 2009 03:57 PM

Well I have not done it myself but AshG cable clamped the cable to shorten it. Others have cut the cable and re-soldered a nipple on.

If we wait a little someone will be along with a slightly more concise answer.

Cheers Ginge

flyerncle 25th November 2009 07:27 PM

It may be possible to use cables from a Sharan or the Ford derivative the name escapes me at the mo,they are fairly short and have a long slotted end that will require a new handbrake end making.
I have just aquired some and will try to post a pic tomorrow.

Galaxy !:rolleyes:

gingea1pom 25th November 2009 07:41 PM

See every time this forum comes up trumps just a mind of information.

RAYLEE29 25th November 2009 08:36 PM

Hi,apparently (on lcb) your local friendly aa man has a box of ends that fit like solderless nipples now i cant vouch for this but its worth a try.
let me know how you sort this as ill need to do the same.
otherwise i beleive someone like speedy cables can make them up to your spec
i have an rs2000 mk5 handbrake cable on my disc braked mk2 escort but i think thatll be too long too
Ray:)

Land Locked 25th November 2009 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyerncle (Post 25867)
It may be possible to use cables from a Sharan or the Ford derivative the name escapes me at the mo,they are fairly short and have a long slotted end that will require a new handbrake end making.
I have just aquired some and will try to post a pic tomorrow.

Galaxy !:rolleyes:

Ford Galaxy? Oops, tooo damn slow:D

flyerncle 25th November 2009 10:42 PM

Nice try dude !;)

alga 26th November 2009 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyerncle (Post 25867)
It may be possible to use cables from a Sharan or the Ford derivative the name escapes me at the mo [...]
Galaxy !:rolleyes:

VW Sharan, Ford Galaxy, SEAT Alhambra. All built on the same line at a joint venture in Portugal... I've seen all three lined up side by side at a used car market -- the only difference was the grill design.

flyerncle 26th November 2009 07:36 PM

And the rear lights ! As I found out the hard way after cutting the quater panel of one to fit to another.

Jimmyd 26th November 2009 08:32 PM

I'm not convinced you don't need to shorten the outer cable as discribed in the book. I've the cable temporarily fitted and I'm happy with the way it has a nice sweeping "S" bend. You'll only cut one end of the inner cable. I've a screw type nipple on at present and will flare the cable and add a dab of solder before the car ever gets near the IVA or road. OMG thats some way off!!!

J
Of course I'm using drums and this thread is about discs. I'll get my coat, it's been a bad day.

flyerncle 28th November 2009 08:58 AM

As promised (a little late but never mind);)


http://www.flickr.com/photos/30468413@N03/4139778981/

deezee 5th December 2009 06:20 PM

I've just started this job today on my car. What a PITA. Why oh why couldn't CP14 be vertical? Also, how am I meant to even get the cable through CP14 without cutting the cable?

So does anyone have any pictures of how the fed the cable through CP14 and looped it around the equalising bar on the handbrake? I'm thinking of cutting the cable at the handbrake, and overlapping the slack, before clamping them together. Or am I miles off?

flyerncle 5th December 2009 08:11 PM

This one is food for thought, on most Ford's the holes have a slot in the body where the cable fit's.
I personally cannot see any problem in slotting the plate to fit the cables and used a piece of angle instead of flat plate for the bracket.

ozzy1 6th December 2009 12:33 PM

As flyerncle says put a slot into it to thread the cable through.You can heat up a piece of angle with blow torch and encourage :D it to the required angle,or use a small offcut to pack it up to the required angle then weld fully.

flyerncle 6th December 2009 01:37 PM

I used a piece of angle instead of the chassis plate as per book spec (rightly or wrongly )but thats what I used

RAYLEE29 7th December 2009 07:50 AM

Hi, why would you want the plate vertical? cant see any prob with how it is.
It should be fine slotting up to the holes (like a keyhole) the plate is definately stronger than the originals although your going to have to shorten the outers and the inner so why not just thread it all through before remaking the end up as in the book?
I havent done mine yet so its all theory at the mo but surely its not all that difficult.
Ray:)

flyerncle 7th December 2009 05:06 PM

Over engineering for strength and it was lying around and as for being vertical the choice is yours.The width of 2 hacksaw blades would probably do for the slot and re-use the clips for security and keeping it in place.

deezee 7th December 2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAYLEE29 (Post 26500)
Hi, why would you want the plate vertical? cant see any prob with how it is.

I havent done mine yet so its all theory
Ray:)

Yeah, well wait till your trying to flex a handbrake cable over the top of the diff, so its pointing towards the ground, then bend 90 degrees the opposite way. The cable just tries to pull its self out of the holes on CP14. It over stresses the cable. If it was vertical, it would remove the stress, fit better and make the adjuster easier to use.

RAYLEE29 8th December 2009 03:11 PM

So move it then, its your car you build it how it suits you, there are many ways to do the same thing each of us chooses our own way
tis only a couple of cuts and a couple of welds
Ray:)

RAYLEE29 8th December 2009 09:04 PM

just had an idea use a couple of wedge washers like the ones used for steelwork that would change the angle easily Ray


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