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Bonzo 24th January 2010 01:32 PM

Confused again
 
I have just been given a 1992 Vauxhall Calibra ....... Popped the bonnet & find that it has the C20XE Red top engine fitted.

That would explain why the car was so lively :D

Engine is sweet & runs very well ..............Now here's the problem. :rolleyes:

Do I stick with the 1.8 Zetec install or fit the Red top engine instead :confused:

I have both Megasqirt and Megajolt built & ready for use ........I also have Throttle bodies & Bike carbs ready for use.
So on that side of things, the money has already been laid out.

Common sense says stick with the Zetec & swap for a 2 litre one if I need more power.

The trouble is.......... I find 150 BHP of Red top power very tempting !!??

I know where I can lay my hands on an Omega gearbox for less than £50 but don't know how it compares in size to the ford type 9 gearbox ??

As per poll ....... Fit it ..... Flog it ...... Save it for a rainy day ??

RAYLEE29 24th January 2010 01:40 PM

I think the best thing you can do is to build a giant catapault and launch the engine towards my place lol
anyway they are a lovely engine very short skirts on the pistons beautifull conrods etc very tunable
if you dont use it definately save it for your next build
Ray

Bonzo 24th January 2010 01:48 PM

Must admit Ray. I don't know too much about the Red top engine ...... Other than knowing that they are quite desireable & fetch decent money.

I thought they were quite tuneable as I had noticed one on Ebay with a dyno printout for a claimed 280 BHP :eek:
Took it with a pinch of salt though ;)

Thanks for your input mate :)

AshG 24th January 2010 02:03 PM

i have got an omega box in the shed i can measure and see if it will fit in the type 9 tunnel if you like?

i would wip the engine out and store it until you make up your mind. other option is to sell it to fund the build.

snapper 24th January 2010 02:20 PM

200 BHP is pretty simple with a Red top, Megasquirt and throttle bodies and a good rolling road set up.
200 out of a Zetec is a fair bit more money.

Bonzo 24th January 2010 03:00 PM

That would be brilliant if you could do that Ash :cool: :)

From my limited knowledge .... I believe the Omega box is a direct fit to the C20XE engine.

I have found a bell housing to convert to the Ford type 9 selling for £153 + vat, have not got a clue what flywheel n clutch mods would be needed though :o



Cheers Snapper ... Definately sounds like keeping at the very least ;)



Quote:

Originally Posted by AshG (Post 29534)
i have got an omega box in the shed i can measure and see if it will fit in the type 9 tunnel if you like?

i would wip the engine out and store it until you make up your mind. other option is to sell it to fund the build.


twinturbo 24th January 2010 03:12 PM

I hate prety much everything to do with vauxhall front wheel drives..

So in my opinion.

Fit the XE.


I thought all Libras had an XE?
280BHP is a Lie! unles it's a Turbo, to get that sort of power out of a non blown 16v you would have to have horrid cams and balance it to rev realy hard. And do a lot of head, exhaust and other work.

Don't bother with a 2.0 Zetec either, the 1.8 is the better unit overall.

TT

Bonzo 24th January 2010 03:31 PM

Here's a picy :)



A bit grubby as you would expect for an engine of this age ....That said ....The block is clean, drives well & pulls like a good un

Junior has allready nicked the Angel eye front lights for his Calibra

I'll keep the gearbox as a spare just in case he trashes another one !! :rolleyes:

TT

The later Calibras were fitted with the 2 litre X20XEV Ecotec engine 130 bhp ( ish )
More or less the same engine as fitted to the Vectra

teun 24th January 2010 05:54 PM

Ronnie you can sell me the throttle bodies and the megasquirt (please):D Iam going the zetec way.

twinturbo 24th January 2010 11:14 PM

If ya want to know what 285BHP takes..

http://www.ricwood.com/XE.html

TT

Bonzo 25th January 2010 09:30 AM

Interesting link :cool:

Quite a versatile engine then, not that my pockets are deep enough to chase that sort of power !!??

When I started my build, I had a chat with a well respected engine tuner & former lo-cost racer.
Sort of came to the conclusion that 150 BHP was the max power that would be needed for the performance I desired

Having been in a completed car that had 100 BHP at it's disposal was a real eye opener .........Plenty quick enough for me :eek:

After a light overhaul ..........I would be more than happy if I could restore the BHP back to the original factory spec ( Power bound to be down a tad given its age )

Going to concentrate on my new workshop roof before I make a final choice ........That said i'll definately keep the engine if I don't use it for my current build :)

Davey 25th January 2010 07:56 PM

I'd go with the original plan of 1.8 Zetec, very tunable motor especially with ITBs. Shelve the Vauxhall lump for a future project, I'd wrap it in cling film to keep out air borne moisture but squirt a shot of oil into each bore first and turn it over by hand to spread the oil up the bores.

D.

flyerncle 25th January 2010 08:15 PM

Bolt it to a VAG box for the single seater Ronnie (you know you want too):D

Bonzo 25th January 2010 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyerncle (Post 29636)
Bolt it to a VAG box for the single seater Ronnie (you know you want too):D

Now there's food for thought :)

Junior thought it would be a nice replacement for his Calibra's Ecotec engine !! .......... Sorry son, it can't be done :D :D


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