Zetec vs s2000 engine
 

Hi all,

we are planning another build, we are thinking about zetec 2.0 or an engine from S2000, the price for s2000 engine and gearbox is about £3200, I have found zetec 2.0 for £990 but without gearbox. (is there some other place in UK where to find engine and stuff?)

The question is, can the 2.0 Zetec engine plus some gearbox and with some modification be for better price ration than the complet s2000 engine?

I mean s2000 has 240HP stock and how much money would I have to put to Zetec to make it at least 200HP?

What do you thing is a better overall solution?

Kitpartsdirect sell brand new zetec engine on ebay for 690quid or best offer,might be worth a try.BGH geartech very good choice of rebuilt type 9 either standard or uprated.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ford-zetec-eng...item3cad5fb306

www.bghgeartech.co.uk

If you've got the budget then go for the S2000 engine every time, its a fantastic engine and would kick the pants of any Zetec. It also revs to 9.5k and would make an awesome drive. To get the Zetec to that kind of power will cost a lot of money. Try Burton Power website they specialise in Ford engines and tuning.

The S2000 engine is comparable to the Rotary Rx-8 engine, i'm sticking with the rotary because i love the engine.

Regards....AndyH

I dont have the budget for an s2000 yet, but i'd love to have it installed.

What parts should I use to improve Zetecs BHP and what is the aproximate cost? I think I wold be satisfied with some 200BHP, what are the choises and for how much money, could you tell me some specifics parts and where to get them?

To get 200bhp N/a out of the zetec you will need cams a good head porting aswell as Throttle bodies and ecu with good maping. Also a good exhaust manifold.


you could do it in stages.

Im not too much familliar with zetec upgrades, could you tell me please what exact kind of cams, throttle bodies and ecu, I know where to get these things in our country for example for bmw, honda and so on but for ford its best to look for in the UK, but am not sure where :)

One more thing, what steering rack would you recommend, 2.9 or 2.4, isn't 2.4 "too hard" ?

if you get the s2000 engine will you be using the s2000 rear diff ?

honda engines rotate the opposite way so if you used a sierra diff you,d go really really fast just backwards !!!

:eek:

id say s2000 all the way just for the vtec engagement but cost is huge with them

Or option B

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-8-Zetec-turb...item20b4b6ee64

200BHP all ready to go ;) :D

Or another good engine, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nissan-200sx-s...item3cb1ecf3d8

Kind regards

John

If I get the F20C engine from Honda, I would have to use with some modifications it's rear diff as well.

Here in Slovakia we are particiating on slalom race where the cars are divided according the size of the engine, up to 1.4, up to 1.6, up to 2.0 up to 3.0 and above that, and I'd like to stay in the category up to 2.0 liters thats why I dont want turbo or compressor :)

I believe the S2000 engine rotates the right way, the FWD Honda engines rotate the wrong way.
Zetec ST170 + some cams and head work will get near 200bhp
The Duratec ford especially the 2.3 will go to 200 easy, 250 with work to 300 with loads of money

If the engine rotates the wrong way can you not just turn the diff upside down? :confused:

depends if the diff has a breather on top ? in theory it could

looks like no need tho honda are spinning this one the other way :D but every other honda engine span the other way :D

was pointing out it would need considering as most people presume engines all spin the same way

Longerr

Hi, if you get the S200 motor, make sure you get the ECU AND the correct key for it, they are coded, and without the key, you wont get the ECU to work. There are aftermarket ECU's, but that is more cost.

On the plus side, the S2000 motor is just about unbustable, they really sing. I know, as the wife bought me one for my anniversary.

Regards

Chris

The S2000 engine, F20C, rotates clockwise, contrary to the rest of the Honda engines.

i did look and corrected myself :D seems honda have had "a change of direction !!!"

waaa waa waaaaaaa !

Just for the S2000. It's their only longitudinal, RWD application.

In my search for a Duratec kit I have found this Kit Car, can anyone tell me what it is, or where can I find more info about it?

http://www.atpower.co.uk/#/throttle-bodies/4541265491

I think it may be an MK midi

Stick it in google and im sure plenty of info will come up

Thanks Mark.

From what I have found untill now for my planned Duratec tunning was this kit, 203BHP, even without cams, for £1933, but it's still quite a lot of money, anybody know about something cheaper, about 180BHP would be enough :)

http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Duratec/Durat...ttle%20kit.htm

It's a Sylva Riot.

http://www.sylva.co.uk/riotSE.html

AT had a stand at Stoneleigh and I nearly blew the budget on a set of them TB's for my zetec. Good job I'd already broke the bank on an Omex before I saw them!:D
LG,
Steve

I would think a set of bike throttle bodies, manifold, Megasquirt and associated hardware, fuel swirl pot and pumps will probable cost £600+

thanks for info snapper, but as Im totally new in this field, we made only a bmw with ITB, I have no experience with Duratec, what exact bike throttle bodies will fit a duratec?

I have found already some configuration, what I wanted to ask is what type of injectors should I be looking for when upgrading the duratec's stock ones, the lowest price I have found for higher capacity injectors was £65 each, thanks

the simple way would be to get a new 2.0 zetec with megasquirt 2 and bike throttle bodys have been know to be getting 195bhp on std cams and a cat with wideband lambda

the only problem is a type 9 struggles to handle that much :(

or go big bike engine :)

baz-r: do you think that T9 will not handle about 195BHP? to tell the truth I have never researched this so I really don't know