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gaz05 22nd January 2011 06:36 PM

Pinto v zetec
 
I've been looking for a pre 95 1.8 zetec to put in for IVA but been offered a Qreg Carlton Commando kit car with a 2L carb dizzy pinto for £175. It comes with two gearboxes (4 spd) and being based on a cortina I could probably flog the uprights and back axle (and maybe the Reg;) ) Hasn't been started for 6 years mind.

I'm undecided. What are the pros and cons of both motors. I'm aware that the exhaust exits opposite sides so swaapping at a later date means a lot of work.

twinturbo 22nd January 2011 06:46 PM

erm.. that sounds like a bargin for the Carlton, I used to want one many years ago.

TT

aerosam 22nd January 2011 06:50 PM

Personally I'd try and get the pinto running before parting with any cash.

Don't forget you need to be able to prove your engine's age to qualify for a non-cat IVA emmissions test, which may be difficult to prove with the pinto as it has already be transplanted once.

If you intend doing swap post IVA anyway, a CVH may be an easier engine to source.

Sorry, I know bugger all about Zetecs.

gaz05 22nd January 2011 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerosam (Post 51767)
Personally I'd try and get the pinto running before parting with any cash.

Don't forget you need to be able to prove your engine's age to qualify for a non-cat IVA emmissions test, which may be difficult to prove with the pinto as it has already be transplanted once.

If you intend doing swap post IVA anyway, a CVH may be an easier engine to source.

Sorry, I know bugger all about Zetecs.

I'm not too worried about starting the motor as I would probably freshen it up anyway.

I may not be able to prove identity but should imagine that so long as the number is legible I can prove the age. Hopefully.

I really did see me end up with a 2L zetec eventually so am still undecided.

twinturbo 22nd January 2011 08:22 PM

I don't think you can loose out for £175 .

probably a good proft to be had!

TT

Big Vern 23rd January 2011 11:43 AM

[quote=aerosam;51767]Personally I'd try and get the pinto running before parting with any cash.

Don't forget you need to be able to prove your engine's age to qualify for a non-cat IVA emmissions test, which may be difficult to prove with the pinto as it has already be transplanted once.

A.S.

It doesn't matter with Pinto's as they stopped fitting them in cars during 1989 and in transits in 1992.

You only need to prove the age of the engine. The age of the vehicle it came out of is generally ignored.

A tired Pinto will cost more to rebuild and there are plenty of good Zetec silvertops still about that you couldbolt straight in.


BV.

AshG 24th January 2011 12:38 AM

swapping the engine on mine now and every day i think to myself why didnt i just put this one in to start with lol.

gaz05 24th January 2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshG (Post 51847)
swapping the engine on mine now and every day i think to myself why didnt i just put this one in to start with lol.

Yes Ash that's the reason I'm still undecided. I'm still looking for a whole cheap escort or Mondeo so I can use the original ignition/ injection system to save cash. The Carlton offer will be open to me for a long time cos the guy is not bothered whether it sells or not.

Coozer 24th January 2011 12:15 PM

Think if you compared the same car with a zetec you would be well impressed with the extra urgency to rev compared with the lazy characteristic's of the pinto. Not called a boat anchor for nothing:)

aerosam 24th January 2011 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coozer (Post 51866)
Think if you compared the same car with a zetec you would be well impressed with the extra urgency to rev compared with the lazy characteristic's of the pinto. Not called a boat anchor for nothing:)

I always thought it was because it was all cast iron?

mark 24th January 2011 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshG (Post 51847)
swapping the engine on mine now and every day i think to myself why didnt i just put this one in to start with lol.

Snap :D :rolleyes:

baz-r 26th January 2011 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark (Post 51878)
Snap :D :rolleyes:

cat in the exhaust springs to ming lol:D

gaz05 22nd February 2011 03:45 PM

Well, I've just done my weekly trip to the local scrappy and Just happened to be there when he was offloading a 1994 2L mondeo glx. I can have the motor and all the gubbins attached plus the ECU and wiring for £50. I think it's pre PATS. It's a 136PS model with 155k on the clock. It sounds very sweet but I'm not sure if the smoke coming out the exhaust is condensation or oil. Clean oil and water.

Anyone got any thoughts please?

Oh and while I was there I managed to pick up 3M of 35mm mild steel bar weighing 33Kg for £8:D

baz-r 22nd February 2011 04:12 PM

bit can be got cheap for zetecs as there everywhere
would only be somthing like a head gasket anyway
the way i see it is if its out its well worth giving it a refresh while its out
i am fully rebilding mine as i found the head weeping coolent at no.1 end so it was head off and as i had to shorten the sump thort it may aswell be rebuilt as most of it was in bits anyway
my 1.8 had 95k and only thing i could find was a bit of crank end float (clutch riding i suspect) exaust valves needed reseat/recut and the rings where a bit big on the gaps but could have been left im just too much of a perfectionist

gaz05 23rd February 2011 05:02 PM

Spent the day in the scrappy and the engine is out. Also got the engine loom and DEEP pre pats ECU. Taking the box off tomorrow and the scrappy is going to drop it off at my house. £60. No brainer.

Now, who's got a 1.8 flywheel and a type 9?


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