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JakeH 19th May 2011 07:40 PM

engine and gearbox mounts
 
HELP!

just pondering engine mounts,

are the ones detailed in the book suitable for the 1.8cvh engine, which will be swapped after IVA for a 2.0 zetec (black top) like in spuds car?

do the engine mounts need to be positioned on the chassis differently?

Ta Very Much

JakeH

Ashtonr 19th May 2011 08:10 PM

Best to trial fit the engine and make some that fit, I used Land rover Rubber mounts to mount to the chassis

JakeH 21st May 2011 08:06 PM

me is slightly confused!
 
been having a play with the engine and gearbox mounts today and have run into a little problem

when i sit the engine, gearbox and mounts on the chassis something appears to be snookered. piccies should explain.







anyone know what iv done wrong or what i can do to fix?

also the engine and gearbox are as close to the front as possible for the gearstick positioning.

cheers fellas thats helped a bit, them welding fumes seem to be going to my head :eek:

Ta Very Much

JakeH

JakeH 21st May 2011 11:04 PM

scratch that, i figured it out :) had a bit of a 'moment'

will probably end up going down the angled route as have trial fitted my bodged steering column and it wont fit with the standard cast sierra mounts.

would 30mm box 2.5mm thick do for the mounts or would i need something a bit chunkyer?

Ta Very Much

JakeH

twinturbo 22nd May 2011 08:32 AM

You want the engine as far back as possible.

TT

JakeH 22nd May 2011 05:07 PM

after a lot more tinkering and shouting i THINK iv got the engine and gearbox in the right place

would just like a second opinion really!

the gearbox is mounted using the mounts specified in the book, not fabricated any engine mounts yet but have the engine 'in' the car and in what i think is the right place (pics below) one of the pics shows the gap between the engine and what will eventually be a bulkhead, the gap is 48mm all the way across so the engine is straight

however when you look where the gearstick will be it appears to be towards the nearside of the car by about 15-20mm. is this correct? dont want to start making engine mounts only to find iv made a fudge of something and have to re-do them.

in the pic the gearstick is in the 3rd gear position so plenty of travel.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

only been able to get them to upload in facebook.

Ta Very Much

JakeH

baz-r 24th May 2011 09:32 AM

what are thease landrover rubber engine mounts that everyone is using? like what models do that fit? and what engine?

ozzy1 24th May 2011 10:03 AM

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Land-Rover-Ran...item3ef686c64b

JakeH 24th May 2011 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdrianH (Post 59218)
Hi Jake

On the engine, I think you are about OK, well very similar to my placement. I though I had a better picture on the web page but not what I thought, but this gives an indication of mine and seems same place.


I would just check the movement of the clutch arm will not foul on the side panel. As to being off slightly to one side, should not be a problem, even if you move the gear stick to the centre it would only be literally 1 mm difference to the rear face of the engine.

Adrian

Deleted my comment on the switch that looks fine.

muchos grassias adrian, perfect explanation :)

not had chance to work on the car for a few days but will be back to it hopefully tomorrow.

does anyone have the thickness and diameter of the landrover engine mounts? cant do much more without them. (will use some blocks of wood or something as a 'mock up'

Ta Very Much

JakeH

baz-r 25th May 2011 07:43 AM

sweet i know the mounts everyone is on about i asumed thay where imp threads:rolleyes:

ozzy1 25th May 2011 08:35 AM

Quote:

does anyone have the thickness and diameter of the landrover engine mounts?
Mine are 35mm thick and 75mm diameter.

JakeH 25th May 2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzy1 (Post 59324)
Mine are 35mm thick and 75mm diameter.

Ta Very Much

can get the engine mounts fabricated now :)

JakeH

baz-r 29th May 2011 02:43 PM

pair for a tenner form my local factors :)
where are people bolting the l/h mount to the block on a zetec? the four bolt holes at the front bottom of the block where the alternator was mounted on my fiesta engine?

JakeH 29th May 2011 06:20 PM

not sure on the zetec, think the alternator brackets may be a little far forward, could possibly put too much weight on the gearbox end of the engine and gearbox mounts?

als have a little update, thanks to some advice from people i have managed to get the engine mounts fabricated and the engine 'trial fitted' used 5mm plate and 50x50mm 5mm thick box section for the mounts themselves.

shortened the sump too, went a little too short though, will be ok for IVA (plan to install a zetec after) so not going to bother unless i get stuck for something to do!

got the landrover rubber engine mounts from here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Land-Rover-Ran...item3ef686c64b super fast delivery (next day)


diff and headlight mounts next then clean up and paint!

the steering column is only temp until i find some suitable metal in a scrap bin to make a proper one

some pics for your enjoyment.








eSteve 29th May 2011 07:16 PM

Looking good...
 
We like pictures.

Your biuld is looking good.

You must be chuffed to get the engine in.

I've only just (yesterday) lifted mine out of my donor.

gaz05 29th May 2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baz-r (Post 59440)
pair for a tenner form my local factors :)
where are people bolting the l/h mount to the block on a zetec? the four bolt holes at the front bottom of the block where the alternator was mounted on my fiesta engine?

I've put mine at the front. however I'm not sure I like it there so I'll probably move it back to the centre with a new mount. i'll have to turn up some spacers because of the dipstick hole.



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