GTS Tuning Challenger body
 

Evening all

Has anyone tried fitting the Challenger body from GTS Tuning?

http://www.ekmpowershop9.com/ekmps/s...enger-30-c.asp

Would it fit on the Haynes MX5 Chassis?

Cheers

Rog

just search gts on any of the kit car forums. 99% of stuff ordered from them doesn't ever turn up and you wont see your money again. and for the rare occasion when something does turn up its usually a pile of crap

Crikey that looks like an on site emegency repair to some tractor implement. I certainly would not advertise a part as rough as that.:eek:

Bob

Wow!

Even I can do better than that!

My cat can do better than that!

The "Original" Challenger had it's own chassis with a daft mono shock rear end and in board shocks and rockers up front. It was fitted with a Triumph 955i bike motor and tweaked with a laptop to tease some more go out of it. Chassis etc was ALL tig welded which at the time (8ish years ago) was unheard of in Kit Cars.Mono shock did some weirdy stuff when out on track too.....:D but heyo if you don't try these things life is boring!
The body will fit the early Ron Champion Locost chassis but will require some dicking about to make it fit.
It will also need to be painted as it never was a gel coat shiney finish.

Thanks for that.

I got a reply from Darren George.

Confirms it won't fit a Haynes chassis without a lot of mods.

Oh well. Will have to have the new Vodou body panels or maybe this.



I'm pretty sure I can get this to fit as the prototype is using a modded Mac#1 chassis, which I believe is similar dimensions as the Haynes?

That looks like MK Sportcars new full body (pretty wee beast)for the Indy too me not a Mac 1. Both are narrower than the Haynes by 2" so it might be a tight fit...Wider body on a narrow chassis is a doddle but squeezing narrow body over a wider chassis might be a cock of a job.

This is the MK body

http://www.mksportscar.co.uk/index.p...ls&Itemi d=29

its says its a Austin Healy shape, which I like! the pictures looks very similar but the front light detail and sides are slightly different.

I thought the haynes was a similar size to the Indy as didn't the book car from Chris use a MK scuttle and nose without mods? but I might be wrong :)

Both bodies are related in that they originally came off another replica. The yellow one has been completely redone and is available as a Thruxton GT from JW Engineering in St Austell http://www.thruxtongt.co.uk/



It will be available as a lightweight Ford based track car or a BMW based tourer with doors and windscreen etc.

The MK one has a shortened bonnet and was developed by Pat Jackson. http://www.driveaction.co.uk/hsr/hsr.htm

i dream of the bodywork off the bentley lemans car on my chassis !
never gonna fit but id love to see something similar !

where theres a will theres a way !

Wow that would be really cool if that bodywork would fit onto a haynes!

I gave MK a call about this bodywork today and they seem to think it would fit without any problems :) I plan to send them some measurements of my chassis for them to work out how well they think it would fit so I'll let you know how I get on ;)

The yellow one isn't the body available from MK. It is from JW Engineering in St Austell. http://www.thruxtongt.co.uk/

The MK one is a little rough around the edges and I'm not sure about the light placements for IVA.

The Thruxton (yellow) body sits on the chassis where you step into the car and has frame work front and back with outriggers. It is also available in a lightweight spec and with a different front.

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There is a good feature in the current Total Kitcar. Jim and the car will be at Exeter.

Ah right I thought it was the same one, they look pretty similar. The yellow one won't fit a haynes though as mark said it was about 2" too small?

Too small where? The body or the chassis?

From talking to Jim it should be a good fit. I will find out for sure when I go to Exeter and can take measurements from the Thruxton and the Vodou/ Talon chassis. Jim tells me he will have a bare chassis there too so it should be easy enough to check everything.

I don't see there can be much difference in the dimensions of the 2 bodies apart from the length of the bonnet. I believe the MK chassis and the MAC1 chassis are pretty much the same. The Thruxton uses a development of the MAC1 chassis. The Thruxton bonnet is moulded so that the length can be reduced if the wheelbase of the intended chassis is shorter.

As far as I can find out at the moment the Haynes wheebase and the Thruxton wheelbase are identical and the track is also the same.

Lets hope they are as I really have got my heart set on the Thruxton body.

Can anyone confirm for me the exact wheel base and track of a Haynes?

That would be amazing if the thruxton did fit also. It'd give people some other options in terms of bodywork and it looks amazing. I really like how it has the flip up front end to let you into the engine. look really smart and reminds me a bit of the ultima :)

Brainbug. Can you tell me which dimensions he thinks are different?

Based on this post from markb earlier on in this thread? http://www.haynes.co.uk/forums/showp...81&postcount=8

DOH! Sorry, missed that :confused:

Looks like it will require a good measure. To be honest I think it will be fine and will require some alterations where the body sit on the top of the chassis but other than that I don't see a problem.

Well I'll definately be interested in the measurements you manage to get and then compare them against my chassis :)

As I say the only part that I think makes a difference is where the body rests on the chassis. I can't see 50mm making a difference any where else.

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You can just about see on this pic where the body on the iside curves around and down to rest on the top rail.

Fair enough, hopefully it wouldn't crack/damage the bodywork stretching it over much. Although is the bodywork strong enough as I'm guessing you'd have to be quite carefull getting in & out of the car and wouldn't really be able to put any weight on the side?

I don't think there would be any stretch. It just rests on top so I would just weld in another tube on the inside and rest it on that.

If it's 25mm each side it couldn't be easier.

Has anyone done this yet or checked the dimensions??

No it won't fit without a lot of work because the Roadsters track is the same as a Sierra. The Challenger was made to take the Mk2 Escort axle or IRS with shorter Sierra drive shafts. Was never a gel coat finish either so needs painting.

I checked the dims and the haynes is 50mm wider than the Thruxton chassis.

I am currently building one but using the Thruxton chassis.

Wheelbase will be the same. Though the bonnet is moulded to allow a 50mm or so variation.

Jim Walker @ JWE will be happy to chat if you are interested.

What sort of money are they asking for the bodywork ?

I quite like Super 7 styling myself but appreciate it's not to everyone's taste so having the option of alternative body styles for the Haynes chassis would seem to be a great idea as it would attract wider interest to what we all recognise as an excellent build platform.

I've been thinking about designing/making some new front and rear arches/wings that are a contemporary cross between the classic 7 clam shells and a Morgan. You would still use the current range of nose, bonnet and scuttle but it would give a full body look. This keeps the cost down and keeps the moulds easy and cheaper to make.

I think you need to go and see these things . It looks a bit like a down sized austin healey. I remember looking at an aston type body conversion on a capri once and thought it looks ok but in the flesh it was crap.

Bob

Phil,
Keep it simple, folk don't like weird looking 7's.