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voucht 19th August 2012 08:41 AM

Roll bar supplier
 
Hello,
I think everybody knows this roll-bar supplier.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Haynes-Roa...item1e71077619
As the guy doesn't have good reputation, according to some recent posts, I was wondering if there is an alternative supplier, for a cheaper price, or if one of you who has the equipment can make and sell me a roll bar?
Thank you very much.

vmax1974 19th August 2012 08:48 AM

Maybe speak to ashg about this one as he gas had a few made am feeling a group buy coming on who else likes that idea

voucht 19th August 2012 09:22 AM

Ok, I'll do that, and keep this thread updated.
Thank you very much.

rapidtornado 19th August 2012 09:29 AM

I used Simon at scorpion kit car parts and got to say very happy with the results - he was selling on ebay but haven't checked if he is still on there.

Think I paid £45 delivered which included base plates

Rapid

voucht 19th August 2012 10:00 AM

I can't find Scorpion Kit car parts on Internet, nor on ebay. The only Scorpion Kit-car I found on the net is a kit car manufacturer in the US.
Have you got their details please?
Thank you.

TheArf 19th August 2012 11:55 AM

just had a look on the bay, I cant find scorpion either, I liked the look of his work, if he has stopped trading I will have to look at making my own

Arfon

robo 19th August 2012 02:28 PM

Is it tied up with this crowd?http://www.ig4x4.com/cat12_1.htm
Tubecraft here in woking are shit hot at this stuff, if there are enough numbers after the same thing I can pop the question!!
Bob

SeriesLandy 19th August 2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robo (Post 77113)
Is it tied up with this crowd?http://www.ig4x4.com/cat12_1.htm
Tubecraft here in woking are shit hot at this stuff, if there are enough numbers after the same thing I can pop the question!!
Bob

That website is based in canada so I doubt it.

These were the people but they don't seem to exist anymore.

The V8 Files 19th August 2012 07:04 PM

Why not send them a question, they received 2 feedback from sellers this month so the ebay account is still in use, their last sale was February but possibly still worth an ask.

voucht 19th August 2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dad_of_Seven (Post 77119)
Why not send them a question, they received 2 feedback from sellers this month so the ebay account is still in use, their last sale was February but possibly still worth an ask.

Yes, I just sent them an email on the hotmail address they give on their ebay page. I'll let you know if I got an answer.
Thanks.

PorkChop 20th August 2012 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voucht (Post 77110)
I can't find Scorpion Kit car parts on Internet, nor on ebay. The only Scorpion Kit-car I found on the net is a kit car manufacturer in the US.
Have you got their details please?
Thank you.

PM Johno Sylvain. He should be able to help :)

flyerncle 20th August 2012 07:24 PM

There is a possibillity I can supply them so if you want to give me some idea as to who and how many I will ask and try to work out a price.

Book spec hoop only.

Talonmotorsport 20th August 2012 10:11 PM

If there are 10 people interested in a book spec roll bar I can do it in 50x2.5mm tube for £50 plus postage, I would also be able to offer a pre drilled cross bar,foot plates and back bars at an extra cost. I have the bender I just don't currently have a 50mm former, after this batch I would be able to offer full weld in/bolt in cages both internal and external.

Josh 21st August 2012 07:53 PM

Will it be seamless tube? If so I'll start off a list of buyers for the main roll hoop only:

1. Josh

voucht 21st August 2012 08:28 PM

Got an answer from Simon @ Scorpion:
Main hoop + pre-drilled foot plates: £45.
As I would like all the tubes, I asked him another quotation for:
- 1 x ø33.7mm cross bar, drilled for the 7/16 inserts
- 2 x ø30mm back stays
- 4 x ø20mm steel bar bits tapped 7/16UNF.
I'm waiting for the answer and let you know.

Talonmotorsport 21st August 2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh (Post 77185)
Will it be seamless tube? If so I'll start off a list of buyers for the main roll hoop only:

50x2.5mm main bar in CDS £50

or

50x2.5mm in ERW £35 both plus postage

Before every body starts screaming ERW Vs CDS please remember that this bar mounts to 1.6mm walled chassis and the strongest part of the car is the engine block.

jps 22nd August 2012 09:16 AM

I'd be interested in

Quote:

Originally Posted by voucht (Post 77186)
:
- 1 x ø33.7mm cross bar, drilled for the 7/16 inserts
- 4 x ø20mm steel bar bits tapped 7/16UNF.

as the part built chassis I got has already got the main hoop and rear stays, but not the cross bar...

Although is is acceptable to have the 7/16 bit inserted into the cross bar? I got the impression from an earlier post that the mounting plates in the book were to comply with some IVA requirement about how these are attached?

voucht 22nd August 2012 07:13 PM

Scorpion replied as well that he can only supply the hoop.
I don't see myself buying the hoop at one place, the cross bar somewhere else, the stays at a third place... why not the 7/16 inserts at another place :rolleyes:
So I leave it aside for now, it is not the most urgent thing anyway.
But if there is a supplier out there who can communicate a price for the whole roll bar (I can buy the set without the plates as I can make them myself), I'm still interested.
Thank you.

flyerncle 22nd August 2012 07:49 PM

Where and how the roll bar are attached if the seat belts are fitted to it seem to be the subject of scrutiny as far as the IVA is concerned,fit larger bolts than in the book and secure the backstays with at least two bolts in the foot plates,I personally turned a hole in the hoop mounting plates so there is a weld inside and out as the pipe fits through the plate.

And just for ease I turned down the inserts a little to make the holes less hard to drill.

mgglep 22nd August 2012 08:48 PM

I made my roll bar and put the eye bosses in the cross bar I made the bosses go through the bar so I could weld both sides I also used 50mm for the hoop and 32 for the rest I also tigged it up I used 4x 10mm cap heads in each top plate and 2 x m10 bolts in each bottom plate I also put in another cross brace if that isn't strong enough for mr iva I don't know what is


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