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jones_d56 23rd September 2010 02:35 PM

VW! Uprights/hubs etc anyone?
 
Hi

I am buying an old bay vw camper! (when the locost moves out for its mot soon) and was wishing to build a locost style a-frame front suspension for it but around the VW PCD112 hubs etc...
I am wondering if anyone has used the albeit fwd hubs/uprights from the VW family ...? its a long shot...

I need a easy... and strong becomes of the increased weight, 5 stud 112pcd hub assembly, the cortina one seems too weak, the sierra? well but I need to adapt the pcd etc.
I will need to "beef" up the a-frame section somewhat and poss arrange differant ball joint mounts etc?

Does anyone have any thoughts?

David

twinturbo 23rd September 2010 03:48 PM

Granada MK3?

Should be the same PCD as the VW/Audi , Otherwise identical to the sierra

Hub center may be too large though for VW wheels.


TT

jones_d56 24th September 2010 09:35 AM

Any VW based? pcd112, M14*1.5 studs 83 or 57.1mm bore
 
Thanks for the reply

I will look into it, are the "front strut / carrier upright" dimensions the same as sierra? so that i wont have to "alter" the a-frames? do they just carry a differant 5 stud hub?

The Granada pcd is 5*112 (good) the "studs" are slightly thinner M12 rather than M14*1.5 (just differant nuts for front), and the bore is 63.4 so i could get 2 centre "boss'es" turned to fit into the centre of the existing wheels so it would be supported. So it would work...!

I have a mate who scraps VW's so still hopeing to use VW/Seat/Audi even Skoda! ha ha ha but if not will settle for Ford.

How strong are the maxi and transit ball joints?

Any other thoughts?

D

twinturbo 24th September 2010 09:46 AM

I may have a pair of granny front's kicking arround.

I may have been confused on the bore size, I have some ford wheels to go on my Galaxy which is to vw Dimensions. I have hubcentric rings to fit them.

TT

twinturbo 24th September 2010 09:58 AM

Ford Bore is 63.4
VW Bore is 57.1

So VW wheels will not fit on the ford without having the bore machined out to 63.4.

TT

jones_d56 24th September 2010 10:08 AM

thanks for the update
 
Once again thanks the the updates, very appreciated

Modern VW are indeed 57.1, however the standard wheels of the "old" bay camper with pcd 112 are 83mm bore "i think!" so they will just need turned centres "bosses" to fit into them down to the ford size.

How much do you want for the Granada front end?

Chears

david

twinturbo 24th September 2010 10:23 AM

£30 postage if i still have them.

TT

jones_d56 24th September 2010 11:10 AM

Granada uprights
 
Hi thanks again

Let me know if you find the "grandad" front end, would it have solid or vented disks?

A bit of routing around, the grandad uprights seem slightly taller? and the standard mushroom sierra inserts not quite wide enough diameter to fit (slop about!... and apparently the wheel studs are really short? so need replacing with longer... all solveable through

Drop me a line if you find stuff.

I will keep looking , any VAG (VW/Seat/Skoda/Audi) locost'ers? out there?

Thanks

David

twinturbo 26th September 2010 04:31 PM

found them.

TT

ginger nutter 26th September 2010 04:47 PM

Best way to is to copy red 9's design

http://www.red9design.co.uk/type2.htm

was thinking of fitting one of these to my early bay but have just gone for a creative engineering beam instead.


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