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brainbug007 12th December 2010 02:37 PM

Welder power socket
 
I just got my welder and didn't realize that it isn't meant to be used with the standard 13 amp sockets and recommends a 15 amp plug / socket. Has anyone tried running them off the 13 amp sockets with any success or did everyone put a 15 amp socket / plug into their garages? If so does anyone know what it costs roughly to have an electrician install one? I don't really know anything about electrics and wouldn't want to attempt it myself :S

Talonmotorsport 12th December 2010 02:44 PM

You can use 13amp plugs on most welders that are single phase ie 240v my 200amp MIG runs on off one with a 16amp MCB braker. 13amp plugs only burst in to flames when you bridge the fuse terminals with 3mm filler rod and a 30amp MCB, don't ask me how I found this out :rolleyes:

flyerncle 12th December 2010 02:52 PM

Probably only cause problems at full power for a long period,I have a 30 amp draw tig on a 15 amp trip and its no bother.

Fire extinguisher handy ?;)

gaz05 12th December 2010 02:57 PM

My Clarke 150TE has welded all the chassis and only blew a fuse when putting a heavy weld on the diff brackets. Like yours mine says it should be a 16A supply.

brainbug007 12th December 2010 03:37 PM

Mine's like yours gaz, I went for the 151TE by clarke. So it sounds like it'll be ok on a 13 amp so long as I don't use it at full power? Did yours do ok on the thicker 5mm plate?

Tatey 12th December 2010 03:53 PM

My clarke 151en has been fine with all of the welding i have put it through, it was also fine on the 5mm plate at full power, i have only managed to blow one fuse using it.

gaz05 12th December 2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brainbug007 (Post 50105)
Mine's like yours gaz, I went for the 151TE by clarke. So it sounds like it'll be ok on a 13 amp so long as I don't use it at full power? Did yours do ok on the thicker 5mm plate?

It's fine on full power. In fact I've welded most of the chassis on full power. It's only when you use it for a long run like the diff mounts that it'll blow a fuse. It got a good weld on the 5mm by going a bit slower and a little more feed. Chamfering the plate helps a lot.

monsterob 12th December 2010 08:26 PM

Jeez ive gone through 15 fuses at least !!!! And had to upgrade the trip switch in both the garage and the house !! :D Good job i get them cheap !!

Enoch 12th December 2010 10:11 PM

Bloody hell guys:eek: The fuse is not to protect the welder, it's to protect your house wiring. If you pull more current than the wiring is capable of handling it will heat up and potentially break down the insulation. The max permissable current is 13 amps, any more than that and the wiring and socket is being over worked. I don't want to sound over dramatic but I have seen a major house fire as a result of an overloaded socket - it aint pretty. If your welder requires more than 13 amps have a proper circuit put in, it aint worth the risk.
Enoch.

baz-r 12th December 2010 11:08 PM

if your welder is blowing fuses all the time it could be one of the rectifying diodes has gone down easy check with the power OFF and a multi meter
this would cause tripping in low settings
hope that helps


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