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Originally Posted by baz-r
yes this is what im trying to work out. the two scrutineers i spoke to yesterday where also saying about roll hoop's and other safty things that applys to libre's
where as limited production is more relaxed
my thinking was if we could prove the numbers of chassis built anyone could enjoy an easyer and cheeper route into acessable motorsports and would be in classes of other mass made kits like westfields etc.
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I dug out my copy of the Blue Book last night. As I understand it, the roll bar (as per diagram K1 in section K of the Blue Book) would be allowed in Sports Libre as would a full cage (K2 in the Blue Book). In road going, the roll bars are recommended, but not mandatory. You'd be daft not to have one though.
With this in mind, I have heard of scrutineers failing cars with safety gear that did not meet MSA spec, even though it wasn't a requirement for the cars to have that safety gear fitted. FWIW, a book spec rollbar would not pass MSA scrutineering without a certificate. No diagonal, the dual bend in the rollbar might not pass, I'm not convinced the back stays would pass either.
I looked up Adrian's car, he ran it (entered as a Haynes Roadster) in the North West's road going kit car section which incorporates rule S 11.1.2, classes 2A, 2B, 2C and 2D. 2A and 2B are car engined classes, 2C is bike engined, 2D is everything else that is illegible for 2A, 2B or 2C. He ran in 2D. I think this is because for 2A and 2B, you must have a windscreen fitted. Adrian doesn't AFAIK.