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Old 30th December 2009, 10:00 PM
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i dont get wot you mean i am sorry.
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Old 31st December 2009, 04:17 PM
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If you buy a Saturn/Triton scuttle they fit direct to the chassis rails and if you made a book spec scuttle it would be possibly 25mm higher than the fibreglass one.On Spuds car he cut the flange off to get the bonnet at the right height to fit the scuttle,so if you had mounted a scuttle on the 25x25 as suggested on the page as I posted before the scuttle and bonnet will be 25 mm higher and you will not have to cut the bonnet flange where it sits on the chassis rails.
Does that make more sense ?
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Old 31st December 2009, 04:41 PM
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that makes perfect sense. thanks. i mailed spud and kind of got the idea of it from him as well. i have been looking into this a bit moor and i think an e36 sump is going to solve all my problems. just need to find one that is not £70 now. and make a new oil pickup. not beyond me i dont think so i guess will be buying one of them to but i will try first.

thanks for the help chaps. (are there any chapesses on hear)
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Old 31st December 2009, 04:44 PM
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Nice one !All the best one and all.
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Old 31st December 2009, 04:46 PM
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thanks for the help chaps. (are there any chapesses on hear)
Well I'm a chapesse...sort of.


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Old 24th January 2010, 10:15 PM
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ok so hear is a pic of the problem. not the best but was hard to get an angel that made any sense.



the sump you can see is hitting the rail and the engine still needs to go about 8mm to the right.

i dont know about tacking width out of the sump as well as tacking a little off the bottom. if i need to keep the volume the same then i will need to weld a box on the other side of the sump.
Just done a dummy first fit of the engine and box. Sump will have to be modded. Clearence is tight on the side rail and hight of the motor too high so I will have to chop a piece out.

Can someone help with the dimmension from the engine/gbox flange to the top engine bay upper chassis rail when using a Pinto/ Zetec etc.

As an assides the the top of rocker cove to side chassis rails id 230 mm with the sump 25 mm below the bottom rail. A tall motor.
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Old 26th January 2010, 10:25 AM
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Just done a dummy first fit of the engine and box. Sump will have to be modded. Clearence is tight on the side rail and hight of the motor too high so I will have to chop a piece out.

Can someone help with the dimmension from the engine/gbox flange to the top engine bay upper chassis rail when using a Pinto/ Zetec etc.

As an assides the the top of rocker cove to side chassis rails id 230 mm with the sump 25 mm below the bottom rail. A tall motor.
Can anyone help with the dimension from the engine/gbox flange to the top engine bay upper chassis rail when using a Pinto/ Zetec etc.
I would like to get the Beemer engine in the same place if posible.
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Old 27th January 2010, 12:20 AM
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Right. To fit the Zetec + Type 9 so the thermostat housing (on the back of the head) clears TR8 the bell housing flange must be ~10 cm into the engine bay. However then the gearstick hits TT5 in neutral. So I would say without modifying the chassis the range of adjustment is 3-8 cm into the engine bay with Type 9.
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Old 27th January 2010, 10:13 AM
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Right. To fit the Zetec + Type 9 so the thermostat housing (on the back of the head) clears TR8 the bell housing flange must be ~10 cm into the engine bay. However then the gearstick hits TT5 in neutral. So I would say without modifying the chassis the range of adjustment is 3-8 cm into the engine bay with Type 9.
Thanks for that Albert. The E36 motor will definitely need the sump modifying to get the motor low enough to move it that far back. I need to measure up but I think the gear lever arms need extending as well. More work!!
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Old 28th January 2010, 08:51 PM
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Ok so. I toted the e36 sump to my e30 engion. If you youse BMW go for e36 I can see this hapening a bit. Plan chop 25mm off it and with it mounted acordingley. I have it sat far enough forward that it clears the top tube at he back of the engin bay but this is by no way ideal. The easeyesy way to pull it back I can see is choping mabe 200mm out of the top rail and replacing it above. I haven't desided though yet. Looking at the gearbox mounts I might be limeted haw far back I can pull the engion my the with of the transmition tunnel.
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