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Old 29th October 2012, 08:35 PM
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Head up Nathan, we all have dark times that we have to ride out and overcome. The world is a difficult place at the moment for a lot of people including yourself.
I think you can be very proud of yourself for giving back as much money as you could.
Don't really know what else to say other than look after yourself
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Old 29th October 2012, 09:30 PM
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D.O.S mine was just a notion put out there as a possible solution. I dont think you will find any takers for the so called marketing plug because at the end of the day they dont make that much profit on bodywork I believe so it would cost them a fair whack for your plug idea.And fair or not I believe u make ur bed u lie in it. All credit to Nathan for trying to make a go of it and I do recall the posts where he said he was going to honour goods and services owed so kudos to him for having balls to do so. Like I said originally communication goes a long way to helping alleviate someones feeling they have been ripped off.
Hi Ozzy, I appreciate your notion as a point of progress, any positive ways forward can only be good and investigated as such.

I think we're splintering into different discussions now, I have to respectfully disagree with regards to the marketing plug, consumer confidence is based on trust which can only be demonstrated by experience, I agree a one off would be 'at cost' which would mean them not earning anything, however, some publicity you just cant buy. I believe it would be a perfect coup for a newcomer in the bodywork business, and they could also negotiate to use the build pics for future marketing.

With regards to Nathan, as I've said I bear no criticism towards him, he tried to start a business based on his skill sets in the most difficult circumstances, I agree with you in your heads up 100% for giving it a go Nathan, business's failing does not relate to personal failure, as per the conversation I had with him earlier, heads up Nath, just keep talking.

My original notion still stands tho, shame there's not many takers.

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Old 29th October 2012, 10:51 PM
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OK, I'm going to start by saying I have met both Nathan and Michael in person over the last 12 months.

They're both good men.

I can totally understand Michael's frustration, becuase I would be very frustrated myself in the same situation. I've also met his misses and his little'un so I can appreciate that every penny spent on his Roadster is precious. Losing money on an unfulfilled order could jeopardise his whole project and that would be a very hard thing to get your head around IMO.

On the flip side, I've met Nathan before and after NTS and I have seen the difference the business has made to him. I have faith in Nathan sticking to his word of settling his outstanding debt but I could see what strain he's under when he was shutting up shop. I have previously said on this forum that I believed that Nathan would sort things out with Michael. Nathan has gone out of his way to help others during NTS's lifetime, which in my mind is a very good picture of what the man is like.

I think the only Roadster specific bodywork Michael requires now is the rear and side panels.

Oh, and keep that cabinet locked Nathan. That's never a route you should consider!
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Old 31st October 2012, 08:36 AM
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Hello Michael,

I've been trying to pm you, can you please let me know which panels are required to complete.

Thanks........AndyH
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