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Old 27th December 2011, 09:02 PM
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Default anti theft!

hey all, im a little confused to what is acceptable as anti theft... i have had a little search and learnt a tiny bit but nothing clear.

my scenario:

i dont have an ignition lock and barrell on my sierra column but i will be having a seperate ignition switch and a batt cut off, is this acceptable or will i have to fit an electronic immobiliser?

thaughts?

Michael
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Old 27th December 2011, 09:47 PM
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From my reading of the IVA manual you need either a steering lock, or an electronic immobiliser.
It specifically says a manual battery switch is not considered an anti-theft device, so yes I think you will need an electronic immobiliser (unless you find a new column with the barrel / key intact).
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Old 27th December 2011, 11:06 PM
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From my reading of the IVA manual you need either a steering lock, or an electronic immobiliser.
It specifically says a manual battery switch is not considered an anti-theft device, so yes I think you will need an electronic immobiliser (unless you find a new column with the barrel / key intact).
Thank you i was more biased to getting an immobiliser anyway might get a transponder type , thatll do the trick
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Old 28th December 2011, 04:25 AM
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Old 28th December 2011, 10:49 AM
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Butt Print technology, they've got to be having a laugh.

It MIGHT make it into some specialized vehicles but the first person that fits it to a kitcar should be shot as a warning for others.
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Old 28th December 2011, 11:30 AM
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I dont think I could be arsed with that

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Old 28th December 2011, 02:39 PM
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Make sure you have a certificate for the fitting of the imobiliserthey may want to see it.
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Old 28th December 2011, 02:45 PM
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the good book says

1.
A vehicle MUST be fitted with either a mechanical anti – theft device or an electronic immobiliser
2.
If fitted to the Vehicle, a anti – theft device
a.
must be operational
b.
must not operate on any part of the braking system
3.
If it incorporates a mechanical part that acts upon a system used to control the vehicle
a.
It must Deactivate before the engine can be started
b.
It must be deactivated while the engine is running
c.
It must have a actuation which is a distinct and separate function from that of stopping the engine
Where the vehicle has no mechanical anti - theft device fitted:
4.
An electronic immobiliser must be fitted
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Old 28th December 2011, 11:07 PM
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Wish mine didnt have a bleeding immobilizer tried to fire it all up yesterday got fuel but no spark ! Paperclip test and i get three codes

Secondary air pump failure
Another insignificant one
AND the good old immobilizer control unit failure ( no signal)

Bugger ! All seems to point to cam sensor supposedly quite common !
Still pi$$ed on my chips
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Old 28th December 2011, 11:18 PM
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Wish mine didnt have a bleeding immobilizer tried to fire it all up yesterday got fuel but no spark ! Paperclip test and i get three codes

Secondary air pump failure
Another insignificant one
AND the good old immobilizer control unit failure ( no signal)

Bugger ! All seems to point to cam sensor supposedly quite common !
Still pi$$ed on my chips
i see! is your's a vauxhall system? because mine will be and im kind of running myself into great difficulty if it goes wrong as techincially im using 2 transponder systems. ie the factory ecu barrell (with the transponder secured to it) and then a thatcham type immobiliser I certainly hope all goes well!
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