doner needed (yorkshire)
as title says really
ford sierra preff 2.0L type 9 etc etc cheers Andy |
if the sierra route fails whats the next low budget option of a doner
thanks Andy |
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Next potential donor is the E36 3 series BMW, but obviously modifications to the Haynes design will need to be made, and special parts will be needed also. |
the search still continues....
is there any model or year of sierra that cant be used? or is there a prefered model or year to look for do i need to look for one with milleage under a certain amount for eg 200,000 if i do find one come up i dont want to jump on the wrong one lol thanks Andy |
The 2L Pinto is quite a rare beast to track down. I'm using the 1.8 Pinto, although I would have also gone for a 1.8 CVH. Personally I'm not a big fan of the DOHC and MT75 box due to their size. My plan is to build the car and get it running with my 1.8 pinto, this also allows me to go for an age related plate. Then while hooning around in the car prep a C20xe to slide under the bonnet for a truly :eek: experience
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How about buying any old sierra with a type 9 gearbox, and getting a 2.0 pinto elsewhere? Scrappie, ebay? Trawl the retro ford/capri/escort/sierra/granada forums and you should find a few good ones for sale.
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can i use a 1991 f reg sierra or will it have wrong engine and box ?
what about a pinto with efi? can i use that engine thanks Andy |
What about this bad boy?http://retrorides.proboards.com/inde...y&thread=67902 go and get it , drive it back, if it makes it back to yorkshire its a good un !! Good price though.
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cool think its a bit further than i would like to travel tho
just missed out on one on ebay for £250 :( congrats if it was someone on here that won it Andy |
I wouldn't worry too much about the engine in the car, its not like you HAVE to use the engine. I'd concentrate on getting one with the right running gear and gearbox.
You can use any engine off the sierra and any gearbox. Its just that the pinto and a type 9 is the easiest to squeeze into a kitcar. In all honesty, the more you read about kitcars, you'll probably end up modifying your scope / design. I decided to source my engine separately, because it will be a long wait for the perfect donor, plus I wanted a pre-cat engine as I think its easier to set up a carb engine than fuel injection / cat converter. |
oh right so if i get a cheap type 9 gear box from one car an engine from another diff from another it wont matter?
do i just need a full car if im going for the age related plates from the car? will it cause problems with the sva? its all very confusing at first lol Andy |
basically thats correct, as long as the parts are interchangeable then you can source from where ever for each part, it just means that as you can,t PROVE which car your component parts came from originally you WILL get a Q plate upon registration, some people think this is a bonus too.
tho it may help when you have your IVA test to be able to prove the year of manufacture of the engine so that the emissions test can be carried out to the rules of which year the engine is applied to, you can gain the info on the age of the engine from the engine number & contact Ford or someone like Burton power etc. hope that helps a little. cheers andy |
thanks guys all info helps and it also helps others who read too
i spend hours reading through threads on here and find loads my head is swelling with knowledge lol another question though should i stay away from later reg cars like 1990 1991 92 93 or can they be good for everything but the gearbox as i believe the type 9 was stopped being used in 1988 but i do i see pinto's in later years? will they be on mt75 box's? can you fit a type 9 box on a dohc? cheers Andy |
not sure where you got your info from but the later cars don,t all have the MT75 gearbox, tho my donor was a 1990 & had a 1.8cvh with a type 9 box so all good for the build.
cheers andy |
hi andy it was off www.zetecinside.com gearbox guide it says ....
The Type 9 was Fords first RWD five speed box, and based on the Type E. This gearbox is commonly used for 5 speed conversions on older vehicles. Some later versions were available with integral bellhousings, although they are more commonly found with removable bellhousings. A 4wd version of this box was also available for the early XR4x4 models. Power rating: Approx 200BHP Fitted in: Capri 1.6/2.0 02/83 on Capri 2.8 11/82 on Sierra 1.6/1.8/2.0 to 12/88 Sierra XR4i Sierra XR4x4 2.8 im :confused: Andy |
I have owned, serviced & repaired many Sierras ( Both Own cars & customer ones )
I have never seen a MT75 box in anything other than the 2 Litre DOHC engined Sierra. I do know that the last hadfull of petrol Sierras had either the 2L DOHC engine or a revised 1.6 CVH engine These changes took place in late 91 Perhaps the dates given on the Zetec inside forum refer to the dates that the earlier, 4 speed, type 9 gearbox was last used. Odds on, if you find a donor that is not a DOHC model, it'll have a type 9 gearbox. I hope this is of some help :) EDIT My first donor was a 1991 1.8 CVH estate & was fitted with a type 9, 5 speed gearbox ;) |
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nice one Andy,
is the donor a runner? taxed? tested? my donor was also the 1.8cvh. good luck with it. andy (handy) ps .... there are too many Andy,s about this forum :D |
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just finished the main part of the chassis i will be starting the rear next need another lenth of 25x25 tho and some round tube which i didnt order Andy |
chassis almost done, donor on its way :cool:
you,ll have your chassis rolling in no time;) if you are having a GRP rear tub you don,t need the round tube for the rear chassis frame, depends on what your plans are for bodywork tho. good luck with the donor, a little tip..... undo the hub nuts on the rear wheels whilst the car is still on 4 wheels. ;) cheers andy |
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thanks for the tip i cant wait to get my hands thick with oil and graizes Andy |
the only reason i mentioned the rear tub was that you said you intend doing the rear frame next week, so if you go grp tub you won,t need to buy the round tube,
all the best with your build & lets see some up to date photos:cool: cheers andy |
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cheers Andy https://vstuff.virginmedia.com/n/50-...4ab66c9633dc1/ |
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tho me & computers don,t get on too well :o :D cheers andy |
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its a virgin vstuff online thing i might upload them all to photobucket or somthing but vstuff is free and they send me 25 prints free each month which will come in handy Andy |
nope ?? its asking me for an email address & a password:confused: :o
it must be cos it knows i haven,t the foggiest idea with computers:D its teasing me :confused: andy |
posted a pic of my doner i picked up today inc collection cost me £250 well chuffed it drives smooth and is very very clean under neath and under the
bonnet :D Andy |
we,d all like to see the photo of the donor but all i see is a little red X :confused:
now the fun begins... stripping it & cleaning all the parts :eek: :D nice one Andy, good luck with the next stage of your build, keep this pace up & you,ll be on the road sooner than me :o cheers andy |
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wow that donor looks in good condition, well done, i,m sure in a week or two it won,t look like that ;) :D
cheers andy |
it really is clean it seems a shame to butcher it lol oh well it will be worth it im sure it will be happier with a new lease of life lol
any tips where to start stripping? cheers Andy ps im updating pics still with chassis ones |
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looking good there Andy, very smart indeed :cool:
tho may i mention that you have TT12 slightly in the wrong place, its the top rail of the transmission tunnel above the clutch pedal area. ( just untack it & move it towards the passenger side to line up with TR5), hope you don,t mind me saying. cheers andy |
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yeah i noticed that when i looked at the pic but didnt notice on the chassis lol could have sworn it was in line cant wait to strip it down any tips where to start tho? thanks Andy Andy |
:o i,ll be honest & admit i didn,t actually strip my donor, fellow forum member "Flyerncle" did it for me, long story :D
one tip that gets mentioned alot is to undo the rear hub nuts whilst the car is still on all 4 wheels on the ground, they are left & right handed threads by the way. enjoy the strip down , i ended up more or less just mopping the floor when my donor was stripped. :D cheers andy |
Go to Tesco's and buy a large box of Quality Street for a fiver, eat all the choccies then put every nut and bolt and fastener into the tin, even if you don't think they'll be required. It will always be the one that you threw away that you need.
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