"EFi is simple."

It better be, I've got a six pot 24 valver that I need to fabricate an inlet fanimold for to take three pairs of bike throttle bodies then set up an Emerald ECU to run the ignition and injection systems. Was planning on fully sequential injection but will probably go paired to start with and look at full sequential later.

D.

second word, Q.. first word, Fu.....:eek:
Your a glutton for punishment aint ya....:D

There is no point realy going for sequential fueling.

TT

:D Davey is talking a different language ain,t he? :eek:

cheers
andy

So glad to hear you say that TT :D

When I got my replacement engine loom for my 1.8 Zetec engine I took the entire loom & ECU but had to cut half a dozen wires that went to the escorts fusebox :rolleyes:

I know one goes to the fuel pump & one goes to to the tacho but don't know where the rest go at the moment.

Guess who i'll be calling on when I come to wiring up the engine :D :D

you do need a loom diagram, or an ecu pinout mind....

TT

Hopefully TT things should be reasonably straight forward

Early 1.8 zetec Mk5 Escort 105ps engine .... The loom I removed was from an identical car of the same age.

All plugs intact & well labled, so far so good.

My intention at the moment is to hook it all up as standard, ECU and all

So with a little luck, the only wiring that I will have to play with, will be the few wires that I cut that entered the drivers side bulkhead/fuse box :)

Once the engine is running .... I'll have a play with the inlet plemum & make one that is a bit more bonnet friendly.

If it all goes tits up it'll be plan B, C or even D !! :D :D

dave bring all the efi bits back with you and i will bench test it.

hopefully they will conform to standard ford colours ;)

TT

I have to disagree I'm afraid. Full sequential injection properly set up will result in a smoother running engine, better starting and lower emissions coupled with better fuel economy. I'm not overly concerned about fuel economy as my personal annual average mileage for the last five years has been around 3k and much as I want to drive my Dragon I don't foresee it covering many miles but any saving of fuel is a good thing, not only for my pocket but for the planet too (no I'm not a tree hugger in disguise either:p ).

If sequential injection didn't give any significant benefits then mainstream manufacturers wouldn't waste money on it.

If you really want to see the benefits of complex sequential injection look no further than your average modern diesel car or van. The modern common rail diesel injection system obviously has to be sequential as its the fuel injection that starts combustion but most systems nowadays are giving three separate shots of fuel per cylinder per firing stroke, the latest generation Bosch and VDO systems are doing up to five squirts per firing stroke. The result of this is an incredibly smooth diesel engine that produces significant torque even at low engine speeds, coupled with a small turbo charger they don't even display any lag. fiat's latest 2.3 litre diesel is giving 160BHP and is as smooth as freshly pressed silk to drive.

D.

Will do mate...Cheers.

Just got to find it though...
It's somewere in nextdoors garden....:eek: :D

Junior usually has to fetch my stuff from the corn field behind our place :D

Sorry for highjacking your thread mate :o

well there's your problem - no they are not the same. The pinto EFI system uses the spark timing as a datum point to time the injectors. Without the correct dizzy nothing works.

You should be ok with the carb manifold gasket on the injection head, but you may find it doesn't last long before it leaks at the top. (the reason the ports are egg shaped on the injection head is so the injectors can fire cleanly into the ports) If it does go fairly soo, fit 2 instaed, the extra thickness will give you a longer life.

Strictly speaking the Pinto EFi distributor is not really a distributor at all, its a crank sensor or at least thats its main function. Apart from its solid shaft and the rotor arm theres nothing else in it that moves. It sends a signal to the ECU which then uses clever logarythms to work out engine speed and tdc references for both ign and fuel. The ECU fires the coil and the cap and rotor arm supply the spark in the traditional way. Cant remember on these whether they are banked or parallel injection. (banked = pairs of injectors fire at the same time or parallel = all together).

If you have been trying to run EFi without the EFi dizzy then that would explain why it no go:D though I'm surprized you could wire it all up:confused:

1.6 or 1.8 breakerless or points will work with the carb set up you have. I've not had gasket problems though I've used the earlier manifold and 38 dgas carb.

HTH BV:)

A 1.8 Dizzy should have had ESC2 with just a pickup and HT distribution. May even be the same Part number as the 2.0EFi dizzy, I can check later.

TT

Just as a follow up to illustrate my last post have a look at this link:

http://www.caravanguard.co.uk/news/h...%20Mar%20%2710

D.

dizzys for pinto sierra are

1.3
1.6
1.8 & 2.0
2.0 EFI


The 2.0 EFI has the TFI module bolted to the side ( although I am sure I have seen a picture of a remote TFI on a 2.0 pinto ?? )

TT

Yup. Mine was bolted to the off side inner wing. Not to the dizzy.
As I said earlier, to me the 1800 and 2.0 dizzy looked identical.
Inside and out...

Not a great pic, but it's just below the headertank outlet
So you can imagine the length of the original wires I was dealing with...