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Oily 20th September 2010 12:25 AM

Tubular chassis?
 
Just throwing this idea out there,how hard would/could it be? Is there any part of the chassis that couldn't use tube,like the wishbone mounting points etc?

(Tried searching but came back blank on the forum.)

snapper 20th September 2010 06:34 AM

Next time you are at a show, have a good look at the MNR chassis.
If you wanted to build your own round tube chassis, the MNR one is the standard you should be looking to emulate

ozzy1 20th September 2010 07:10 AM

Roadrunner racing do a round tube chassis also with their SR2

http://www.roadrunnerracing.net/rr-g...d-gallery.html

metal matt 20th September 2010 07:53 AM

hi. It's been a while since i have been on here but on my chassi i used tube on the top of the tunnal to make the edgees nice and soft and i was then going to make a one peace grp panal that drops over the top so it dosnt have any seems and i also have plans to make another chassi in 316 polishd stainless steel tube i just think it would look so cool

Oily 20th September 2010 09:21 AM

Thanks for the replies.Just had a look at the above,very nice :cool:

Just flicking through the book and trying to see where you would struggle in any areas if a tube chassis was the order of the day.

ozzy1 20th September 2010 09:33 AM

I dont think you would have any probs just the fact that you would have to fishmouth most tubes where they meetand it would consume a lot of time.Unless you have access to a lathe which would make it easier.

3GE Components 20th September 2010 09:55 AM

There's no reason at all why you can't use round tubes, square is easier to work with for a home builder, which is why it's more common.

Cutting round tube can be done with a tube notcher, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WNS-Pipe-Tube-...item3360cc8870 , the "hard" part is keeping the fish mouths parrallel to each other.

Brackets for suspension etc will have to made, as they are not a stock item anywhere, this is something we could do for you if you wished.

Putting panels on is a bit trickier, as you have a smaller contact area for the rivet, so accuracy is paramount.

On the plus side, round tube chassis's look far better ;) :D

Kind regards

John

Oily 20th September 2010 11:49 AM

Will bear this mind John if I go down this route :) I'm still weighing up which way to go :o

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzy1 (Post 45240)
I dont think you would have any probs just the fact that you would have to fishmouth most tubes where they meetand it would consume a lot of time.Unless you have access to a lathe which would make it easier.

I do have access to a machine shop so that's one less thing to worry about ;)

Oily 20th September 2010 12:52 PM

Forgot to ask would you do like for like,i.e 1" tube instead of 1" box?

3GE Components 20th September 2010 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oily (Post 45257)
Forgot to ask would you do like for like,i.e 1" tube instead of 1" box?

Personally, I'd go up a size to 1-1/8" for the main tubes etc etc.

Kind regards

John

Oily 20th September 2010 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3GE Components (Post 45258)
Personally, I'd go up a size to 1-1/8" for the main tubes etc etc.

Kind regards

John

Thanks John :)

davidimurray 20th September 2010 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oily (Post 45257)
Forgot to ask would you do like for like,i.e 1" tube instead of 1" box?

You should calculate the second moment of areas and work out the equivalent stiffness of the round tube relative to the square tube.

Tilly819 20th September 2010 07:52 PM

hi all heres my 2 pence worth

in comparision to a 16swg box chassis such as mine

to make a tubeular chassis it would be worth making it out of 1 1/4in tube which would enable you to drop the guage to 18swg and maintain the same stiffness and also drop the weight from about 52kg to 40kg
however as soon as you drill a hole in tube to say rivit on the floor it will reduce its strength more so then with box
and you have to be alot more accurate in doing so sich you have a curve rarther than a flat
hope this helps
calculations were very quick and very aproximate
tilly

Oily 20th September 2010 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidimurray (Post 45260)
You should calculate the second moment of areas and work out the equivalent stiffness of the round tube relative to the square tube.

Fancy doing this for me David as my calculus is a little rusty ;)

If I were to use 1" 1/8 tubing I'm guessing I'd have to recalculate all the measurements of each piece?


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