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Old 26th March 2009, 12:08 PM
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So the Type 9 gearbox bolts straight on or do you need an adapter?
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Old 27th March 2009, 06:10 PM
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how many people stick with the original Zetec injection/ECU? surely that'd be easier and cheaper for the budget minded? (just thinking outloud )
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Old 27th March 2009, 07:06 PM
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You'll really struggle to fit the standard unit under the bonnet, and although it's possible, it's not that easy to get the standard ecu to work outside of it's original car.

It's also really restirctive, so most people take the opportunity to release some more power. For the budget-minded, there's bike carb/bodies and megasquirt/jolt.

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Old 28th March 2009, 08:49 AM
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Hmmmmmm.... ok I take your point, makes good sense. Which bike carbs are people using? (make/model) and how close is the jetting for initial start up?

For the ignition could you use the CVH coil pack and control unit?

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Old 28th March 2009, 12:49 PM
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hi
as adrian suggests the ford plenum is very tall etc
if you want to use the ford ecu go for a pre pats one ie does not have the chip in the key that one is very easy to use you could make up your own inlet manifold and use the ford plenum but it does seem a lot of work to me

the permutations for fueling are endless the choice is really yours
but age of engine is the most impotant thing to consider ie;
you wont get a late engine through sva/iva on carbs you can only get a pre august 95 engine through on carbs post this date you,ll need fuel injection and a catalytic converter
hth
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you,ll need a set of carbs that have a choke size of approx 36mm or bigger cbr 600 upwards seems the norm
kawasaki z9 seem popular you will be best off with aset withthe tps as standard but the choke size is the starting point
a good starting point for jetting seems to be 140 for a 1600 150/160 for a 1800 and so on but you alter cams etc you,ll
have to have tuned on arolling road or diy with a wideband sensor

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Old 29th March 2009, 06:21 PM
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is it possible to use the 1.8 zetec clutch with the type 9 and the capri release bearing?
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Old 29th March 2009, 07:01 PM
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Yes it is - it's what Westfield use as standard on their cars, although some say you may get some clutch slip - hope not, as this is the set up I have!

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Old 31st March 2009, 04:40 PM
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Hmmmmmm.... ok I take your point, makes good sense. Which bike carbs are people using? (make/model) and how close is the jetting for initial start up?

For the ignition could you use the CVH coil pack and control unit?

Cheers.
I used ZX9R carbs, later ones with TPS, The engine started and ran fine with the standard bike jetting and passed SVA like that. Got mine set up at Bogg Brothers propoerly as the standard jetting gave me nothing above 4K

The BB settings were, mixture screw 4 turns out, needle one groove above middle, mains drilled out to 1.8mm.

And yes i belive the coil pack and unit from a CVH carbed engine can be used.
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Old 31st March 2009, 06:26 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback chaps I have now found the solution and bought a Kawasaki ZX9R engine! Always fancied the idea of a bike engined car. I don't know much about bike engines but never to late to learn. I got it for £260 almost complete, found the carbs, loom and all the other gizzmo's on ebay so we I'm all set.
Its going to to be quite a challenge!
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how many people stick with the original Zetec injection/ECU? surely that'd be easier and cheaper for the budget minded? (just thinking outloud )
and another thought, with the flywheel etc 1.8 cvh flywheel and clutch i gather the same fitment and definately fine for type 9 gearbox keeping things simple then the bit i am not sure about, the front pulley from the 1.8 cvh (needed for the crank sensor) will this fit? then the next bit about which sensor to use will it all work? the theory is there but its the pratice bit that fails!!!! also using the plenum on ebay nice piece of kit which allows the steering through and the standard ecu the thoughts and practical info please. NICE IDEAS END UP IN THE BIN!!!!!
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