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Old 18th March 2010, 06:37 AM
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I think it could be solved easily and the cause is pobably our own fault,if the adjuster is in tension due to the tube being too long when tightened it will fail due to the weakest point being the nut end.

Solution.(possibly) the tube should be the exact length to hold the adjuster in compression, or weld a suitable washer at the outside end to prevent it detaching from the arm.
Another alternative is to remake the tube with an internal step at wheel end to stop it pulling through.

It made sense to me at silly o'clock this morning and I hope it does to others.

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Old 18th March 2010, 06:49 AM
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the tube was the exact length so that wont cure the problem and looking at the force to make that bit of ali break a washer wouldn't stand a chance. simple fact is that they are made out of the wrong material and should be abandoned.

its not worth killing yourself to save a couple of grams
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Old 22nd March 2010, 09:22 PM
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Having just got back from holiday this morning I was quite alarmed to read about this failure. I've got a set of these adjusters I am planning to use when I make my own wishbones in the next couple of weeks. Interestingly there has been some discussion on this on the 'other forum' including a good suggestion by Ash for an alternative design (which I plan to use) to provide a safeguard in the event of failure - for more info see -
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/view...=132143&page=4
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Old 24th March 2010, 01:07 PM
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Thumbs down Ash's thread deleted from LCB !!??

I was just going to have a re-read of the thread that Ash posted on LCB & now it has gone

Reading it this morning !!??

I must say .... Was absolutely GOBSMACKED to note that one particular post lashed out at Ash & accused him of scare-mongering

Certainly made me think twice about using the quick adjusters without making provision for some kind of failsafe device
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Old 24th March 2010, 01:47 PM
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Been having another look

It would appear that another thread has been merged with the original topic

End result .... Total loss of all of the original posts in Ash's thread

Here's what's left of it

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/view...=132551&page=1


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All fixed now .... Thankfully it was as a result of an admin error

Definately some serious food for thought there
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Old 24th March 2010, 06:28 PM
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I must say .... Was absolutely GOBSMACKED to note that one particular post lashed out at Ash & accused him of scare-mongering
Yes I see that as well.
Was tempted to reply. But thought better of it.
Bet it would have been a different story if it was his adjusters that had gone.

One failure is too much on something as important as the thing that holds the wheel on.........
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Old 24th March 2010, 07:19 PM
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Blimey what a cafuffle Ash's adjuster has caused..glad you are ok though dude.

Idea or a copy of an old idea for you:
Instead of the adjuster being made from hex bar use round and turn it down so it has a shoulder then drill a hole in the end like a box spanner...You can't really get a spaniard on the hex anyway as it's too tight in the end of the wishbone.
Before any one shouts and says pants just take a look at a Van Dieman single seater...nowt is ever really new don't yer know and it's where the idea for the GTS adjusters came from as I just happened to have a Van Dieman sat in my workshop at the time...and was cheaper to make them from hex bar than fanny about with round then drill the end
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Old 24th March 2010, 07:20 PM
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How on earth can telling people of a failure be scare mongering.
Dont think I will be bothering with LCB.
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Old 24th March 2010, 07:28 PM
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How on earth can telling people of a failure be scare mongering.
Dont think I will be bothering with LCB.
I agree on that matey and problem is the bloody internet is full of "billy no mates" types who do nowt but rubbish everything, they are brave online but face to face are usually complete and utter knobheads.. as for me? I'm just a cock but I can own up to it
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Old 24th March 2010, 07:52 PM
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Yes I see that as well.
Was tempted to reply. But thought better of it.
Very wise David .... I am afraid it would just fall on to deaf ears !!??

Once you have sorted the wheat from the chaff, there is some good information in that thead.

From my own point of view, that of your average joe " Home builder "

I am not in the slightest bit interested in the science or mathematics of any given material.
Dare say, if I was so inclined .... I too could trawl the net & find some maths or theory , copy this infomation & post it in a thread to make me look smarter than you average bear.

The failure of the camber adjuster on Ash's car interests me greatly .... It proves that this particular component has the potential to fail .... The most disturbing aspect of all this is the fact that things could have ended with a devestating fatality

Not too convinced by the supposed stress test .... Heath Robbinson to say the least, just about the least scientific test I have ever seen .... If not tested to destruction & accurate measurements taken, any such test is meaningless !!??

In light of recent events, I have decided to abandon the use of the quick adjusters .... Also concerned that mine were bought about the same as the one that failed & at this stage, a faulty batch cannot be ruled out !!

Thumbs up for Ash's revised wishbone boss with built in failsafe .... Alas I do not have the tooling to make these but would be interested in buying them if they became commercially available

Well that's my little rant over .... Safe motoring guys
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