Chassis Kit

[HandyAndy]

Originally Posted by mr henderson

It's worth pointing something out here- I've been a manufacturer of various things in the past, and I can say a lot depends on how people are set up.

When a manufacturer sets a price for something he will be bearing in mind the cost of the raw materials, the running costs of the business, and much time it takes to carry out the work, and how much money he wants/needs for that time.

So if 2 products from different manufacturers are the same (as far as the customer in concerned) but the prices are different, it may well be that there is a difference in one of the factors above. For instance it may be that one of them has a quicker machine, or lower rent, or is able to get the material cheaper, or has had a lot of practice (this can make a huge difference).

My point is that you can't judge the quality of something by the price, there's more to it than that.

I,d like to say that the above is a fair assessment ( apart from the quote of the 2 products being the same, in relation to the flat packs kits) of any manufactured product in any "walk of life".

I,d also like to add the following, but please be assured it is said with all good intentions & in no way intended to cause upset or frustration in any form what so ever to any person at all.

The kits that I supply are intended to help any future builder in their quest to build a Roadster, when I first offered the kits I did research by asking the forum membership questions such " what should the kit include, to what level of completion" etc, I took onboard the very good response from all the members that replied, & so that then became the kits that I started to supply.
I only started offering the kits when it became apparent that a previous supplier of flat pack kits ( Armoto ) had for no known reason stopped supplying them, so when I suggested about possibly offering to supply them, the idea was warmly welcomed, & so it is purely down to the length of time ( & hopefully satisfied purchasers ) that my kits had become popular, & hope they continue to do so.

I have never questioned any supplier about what products they supply or the prices they charge, that in all honesty is non of my business ( said politely ),

But as has been mentioned on this thread ( make sure what is included in the kit is what you require etc), the 2 suppliers of flat pack chassis kits offer 2 very different kits, they are not the same in what they include, they are not the same price, so as has also been said, its a customer choice of where they wish to purchase from once they have researched which kit suits their needs etc for whatever criteria the customer expects from a kit & its supplier.

This is also said with all due respect,
It is a shame that Phil ( Talon motor sport ) has taken the decision that he has, as others have said, we are all able to give help from experience gained in various ways to others that may not have that experience etc etc , for example.... I personally know nothing about electrics , I wouldn,t comment or give a reply to someone asking about an electrical situation, but I read the posts & enjoy learning from others that are confident in that subject....

I wish Phil & Talon as a business all the very best,
yes we offer similar products but that doesn,t mean there is a conflict of interests, in fact I have in the past ( around when I started making kits) made contact with Phil & tried to pass on a possible customer, as at the time the "customer" wished to purchase a flat pack kit from me but for personal reasons about the customer ( less abled bodied ) I felt it may be better for him to purchase a fully welded chassis & suggested he contact Phil at Talon, & even gave him the contact number.

My point being, yes we offer similar products but would like to think that this fact doesn,t create a "divide" on a personal level.

This is all said with total respect to all.

cheers
andy

[spud69]

You're right in all that you say Andy, but don't get too stressed about recent events. I even said that following the recent kit car article that the feature was good for all haynes roadster suppliers and we should all be in the business for the benefit of the Haynes Roadster brand as it is now and going forward - for whatever we may gain from it and yes some of us are a business and need to make a living but we are in this business because we love the concept and the car itself. At the end of the day it is upto the builders themselves to make their own minds up and we shouldn't need to justify ourselves over who goes where and how much they pay for whatever service they may offer.

We are supplying a service to the industry so lets just enjoy doing that. I do not get involved in politics but recent posts seem to be undermining the nature of the haynes build philosophy. Sorry if some of this doesn't make sense but i've had a drink and i know what i mean.

All the Breast....AndyH

[flyerncle]

No Monster thats bling you narna.

Nobody should have to apolagise for their products or give reasons why they do what they do and as I said previously the choice is the person/person's own and if they choose one over the other then so be it.
I have commented on what I have recieved first hand and it was first class, I cannot and will not comment on others goods or parts.

I agree with comments about the forum being for the good and support of all the builders and for those supplying parts etc but what it should not be is a place to get into arguments otherwise we may end up like others.

At the end of the day its your Roadster (thanks to CG/MK)build it as you see fit with your choice of parts.

Dinner time,could do with monkey burger but its too far.

Cheers.

[spud69]

Sorry Paul, nobody turned up today so have just had a large big mac 'cardboard' burger meal.....

AndyH

[twinturbo]

UUUURGGG... Cack Mac...

Not a patch on a Burger King, which is not a patch on a "Harraby Inn" Burger or a Monkey Burger...

Mmmmmm.... Hungry.

TT

[flyerncle]

A mixed gorrila from that pub just outside Brampton on the way to Carlisle !
Must be the aftershave Spud .

Mc Donalds, I'd rather die.....!

And on a lighter/brighter note I got loads done to the car today and the rear suspension is nearly sorted plus other bits and pieces. Yes !!!

[twinturbo]

Depending on which road.. Either the Lane Ends , or the Golden Fleece..


I had the Mixed Grill From the Lane ends a couple of months back for the wifes grandas 90'th...

Not the bigest I have had but rather big... They used to do a super Lamb in orange sauce but it seems to have been droped now ... It's one of my favourite pubs for grub.

TT