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Old 29th September 2011, 08:22 AM
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I think you've got confused. RS2 is absolute correct. The 406.9mm dimension is how much it sticks past the 25mm chassis rail, BR12. So add your 25mm for the rail, then lose 3mm for chassis plate CP1 and your on 428.9mm. So not really a far off the 430mm measurement given.

Bear in mind that its only rails 2,7 and 4 that need to be square for the mounting of the suspension, the RS10 rail could be all kinds of wonky and it wouldn't affect the car in the slightest.
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Old 29th September 2011, 08:41 AM
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I think you've got confused. RS2 is absolute correct. The 406.9mm dimension is how much it sticks past the 25mm chassis rail, BR12. So add your 25mm for the rail, then lose 3mm for chassis plate CP1 and your on 428.9mm. So not really a far off the 430mm measurement given.

Bear in mind that its only rails 2,7 and 4 that need to be square for the mounting of the suspension, the RS10 rail could be all kinds of wonky and it wouldn't affect the car in the slightest.
Hi Deezee,

Thanks for the reply. Im clear about the RS2 sticking out 406.9 past BR12 and that is correct, I did the sums as you did above (in fact the total length of RS2 is 428.9 and so also correct) It just doesnt show in the book RS10 to be at an angle from square outwards (1 deg), it shows it as square?

Still a bit confused.... has everyone got RS10 at a bit of an angle then?

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Old 29th September 2011, 09:35 AM
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No they sit at a right angle, then when you add the top frame to it should mate with SB3 perfectly.

Unless the lean back of the whole frame is not quite right, which is what i had.
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Old 29th September 2011, 10:04 AM
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No they sit at a right angle, then when you add the top frame to it should mate with SB3 perfectly.

Unless the lean back of the whole frame is not quite right, which is what i had.
Thanks for the comments. Strangely the lean back angle was the problem I had the first time round (build #1). On build #2 (Revenge of the chassis) I have measured all angles with an inclinometer so they should be pretty close).

The way I see it, I have two options:

1. Remake RS2 a little longer (about 4mm), so the back is square. (But is this likely to have any knock on effects?)

2. Live with the angle being slightly out (which is bothering me at the moment as it seems excessive).

Thoughts?

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Martyn
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Old 29th September 2011, 10:05 AM
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No they sit at a right angle, then when you add the top frame to it should mate with SB3 perfectly.

Unless the lean back of the whole frame is not quite right, which is what i had.
PS, what did you make the lean back angle?
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Old 29th September 2011, 01:23 PM
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If you put a flat edge against SB2 that comes down to the build board and measure it against BR12 and you get 151mm then the angle has to be ok. Thats I look at it anyway!

stands to reason BR12 isnt going anywhere, if the lean back is out, SB3 is trying to push the top suspension frame further away. Hence you want to lean RS10 back/extend RS2! Id recheck the lean back.

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Old 29th September 2011, 03:55 PM
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If you put a flat edge against SB2 that comes down to the build board and measure it against BR12 and you get 151mm then the angle has to be ok. Thats I look at it anyway!

stands to reason BR12 isnt going anywhere, if the lean back is out, SB3 is trying to push the top suspension frame further away. Hence you want to lean RS10 back/extend RS2! Id recheck the lean back.

Will
Thanks Will,

I will check this tonight.

Rgds

Martyn
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Old 29th September 2011, 08:13 PM
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Unless I,m missing something, which is highly likely

If RS2 is incorrect when positioned into place , then , surely RS1 will be too??

I haven,t got my book at home with me but if you have needed to shorten RS2 then it would appear that BR12 is not "true", if you have only need to shorten RS2 & NOT RS1 then the fault lies in the BR rails.

As others have said , the diff cage is basically a TRUE box welded to the back of the chassis , remembering that you need to leave a 3mm gap for where the small plates are fitted on the cockpit side of the seat back area.

RS10 should be at right angles.

Be careful when presuming all is well by shortening parts here & there to get your measurements correct, ( shouldn,t need to ).
This will cause you problems when you come to fit the wishbone brackets to the diff cage if the diff cage is "wonky" as the placement of the wishbone brackets are measured from various points including the rear face of BR12.

If I had my book I could be more precise

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