Are the antics of some traders ruining this forum ?

[trick-kit]

Originally Posted by Bonzo

could it be said that they are cold, calculating chancers doing nothing more than trying to discredit a reputable rival company now they are both involved in a new joint venture.

Hi Ronnie,

I've never really been one to get involved with forum politics but this time I feel I need to have my say, I've had a good look back though all my posts and as far as I can see the only thing I've said that is even remotetly negative is that I posted that the geometry isn't ideal and there is room to make improvements.

On the whole I like to keep my replies to the helpful type, like suppling people with the information (or drawings) they require, or sometimes a bit of a joke.

For those of you who want to check, you can read them all here

http://www.haynes.co.uk/forums/searc...earchid=113630

The above quote, which i read as a distinct poke at me personnally, is completely unfounded. Yes, I am heavily involved with Vodou, and yes I am developing new products, however somethings, as you must appreciate, take time to test thoroughly, only when I'm happy do I release them. I have a reputation for being fussy and work on the "would I be happy fitting them to my car?" school of thought. I just don't do "that'll do!" Sorry if that delays products coming to market or doesn't fit in with your "I want to see it now!" wishes, but that's just the way I am.

I still whole heartedly support the Haynes Roadster (and have done since it started), if I didn't, do you think I would have spent the last 6 months working on new products to make the build process easier or improve the function of certain aspects of the car? Time is the most precious thing in life and I don't waste it on things that I don't believe in!

And despite the opening line "It is not my intention to slight any particular trader on this forum" It certainly reads like you have only one company in mind when you typed this.

Kindest Regards

John aka TK

[voodoo]

There is a very good reason that I don't give sneak previews of my work anymore; those of you interested might like to check out the development work I originally put into the MX5 conversion here:

http://www.mx5-locost.co.uk

I wonder if you might recognise that design, oh and please note the dates.

[robo]

According to the how many being built poll there are over 200 cars on the go or very soon to be started. Thats the poll only without those that dont bother with the forum .That is a shed load of customers for the suppliers and a fair bite of the apple for those that can get their act together. Even a lean build at 2k to 3 k puts this industry at 600k over a couple of years without whats going on in the locost world. Pull together chaps.

Bob

[K4KEV]

Here we effin go again I’ve not been around long enough to know what any issues are on this particular forum , but I have been involved in differing forums for the last 20yrs and one thing I have learned…..this kind of tit for tat banter is actually beneficial for the survival of clubs/associations/support groups…..etc….peeps will, be more interested in bad shit than good shit.
I came and joined this forum for one thing only and that was to gleen as much knowledge and info as possible to help me progress in the task of building a CHEAP sports car for on the road and to this ends the forum is very good at supplying the aforementioned
As for silly peeps who seem to take pleasure from upsetting peeps,I do not have time nor will I ever entertain them…….. to stand back and laugh at their antics and stumblings does increase the entertainment value, but you are truly sad if you actually gain any kind of pleasure from trying to push any kind of critisism of products or services.
mistakes and incorrect procedures are already picked up and to that end it is called constructive critisism.....EEERRRRR HELLO....I WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A SPORTS CAR THANK YOU, CAN YOU PLEASE LET ME GET ON WITH IT

[voodoo]

You know what the ironic thing is? I don't want all this cr4p either.

Like John, if you check back through my posts I haven't so much as suggested anything negative about ANYBODY, no matter how strongly I feel. Funnily enough if you also search the instigator of this thread you will notice a common theme bad mouthing myself and my collegues.

Mark has been a tit at times, I am sure he would agree - that is his way. BUT we have discussed this and he has stopped being destructive. HOWEVER he, John and myself are allowed an opinion and as this is a public forum we are entitled to express that opinion otherwise what is the point? If you don't want critisism then crawl back under your rock; personally I'd rather ten of you said to me "Honestly, that design is rubbish, leave it to the experts" than sitting bitching behind my back - critisism is how I better myself.

I recently released my plans, I have recieved many emails of thanks and praise for doing that but not a word on here, why do you think that might be? Perhaps the bully-boy tactics of certain 'cronies' on here have people too scared to speak their minds? A sad day indeed.

Finally, Ronnie. If you spent half as long actually working on your car as you do bitching about members of my team you'd have finished it months ago and would be driving around with a grin from cheek to cheek.

[MarkB]

Public debate is a good thing but public slanging match just makes folk look retarded. I only pointed out why we stopped our single seater as we saw it as a track car not a road car. If folk want to make them for the road then fine go for it BUT be prepared for folk with an opinion like those on LCB.

[vmax1974]

my appologies for any offence caused in my shouting down of markB's opinions on the single seater i could have worded it more politely i was trying to say that when i asked my contacts they did say that if the single seater was taxed and tested and road legal and meets noise regulations then in there opinion it would be fine on a track day

[MarkB]

Apology not needed and no offence taken, we are all entitled to our own opinion. Yes mine can be a bit "forward" at times but at 46yrs old I am not changing for anyone