Need a couple of chassis dimensions pls

[robo]

I reckon most of the work is in the sump Bruce. That engine has a very deep skirt on the engine block so you could build a shallow sump full length and still have plenty of capacity. That would drop the thing right down and then you can have 25mm of engine under the car, despite how it looks now with all the clutter removed it will still probably fit within the standard bodywork. Beast Me likes but then I am sick anyway

Bob

[The V8 Files]

Looking at it the sump mod may not be too bad, the depth will be dictated by the oil pump/integrated pickup, there is an oil level sender in there and although its a 'nice to keep' it probably isn't essential, the only other bit to work around is the dip stick at the front but that should not be ok, the block face is wide and flat with regular fixings so should lend itself nicely to a modded sump, I'm looking forward to doing that at some point.

Note to self, keep all the ally parts from the donor to practice tigging with.




Apart from that I just spent a while sorting out the engine on the stand, I really wasn't happy with it so eventually took it off completely and reorganised all the rear brackets and added a couple of supports.

Its a little crude but functional, and also allows me to drop the sump off when I'm ready.

[robo]

I think the worst case scenario with that will be to junk the pump and go dry sump.You would grab at least 4" with one of those systems. loads of second hand dry sump stuff on the bay of thieves http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dry-sump-o...item27cca24f95 just thoughts.

Bob

[The V8 Files]

Originally Posted by robo

I think the worst case scenario with that will be to junk the pump and go dry sump.You would grab at least 4" with one of those systems. loads of second hand dry sump stuff on the bay of thieves http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dry-sump-o...item27cca24f95 just thoughts.

Bob

I fear you may be spot on Bob, I've been a little side tracked from it today as the chuffin boiler has packed up.

I think I'l remove the sump and alternator and then have another go in the wooden frame, its not perfectly accurate but should hopefully give an idea.

Bruce

[robo]

Bruce I had a measure up of the getrag 265 and a t5 manual 5 speed box and input shaft centerline to the lowest part of the box is around 5" - 61/2". V8 yank flywheels are about 13" to 14" in diameter, bmw is probably somewhere near the same so you dont want the sump to be much lower than around 6" below the crank centerline. It all needs to go as low as poss without tearing lumps out of it over speed humps so reckon on an inch of sump under the car as a max and that will put the lowest part of the box under the car the same as the engine.

bob

[robo]

http://www.daileyengineering.com/20-...ITH%20PUMP.jpg

http://www.daileyengineering.com/dry_sump_oil_pans.htm

Bob

[The V8 Files]

Hi Bob, sorry I've not got round to replying yet, I've been a little sidetracked trying to get the plasma cutter running with the new torch. It was a doddle to fit but it still doesn't work, I cant get the HF pilot to fire and as I need to get the shell cut up and weighed in to recover some cash for the mig I've had to resort to the angry grinders

I've not taken a measurement of the auto box from centre flywheel to bottom of bell housing yet but you were spot on with the flywheel which is 13 1/8". Also from centre flywheel to bottom of oil pickup is 8" which means prob + 1" ish for sump clearance, might get away with it if I put tractor wheels on! so have resigned myself that a dry sump is the only feasible option.

I wasn't keen at first partly due to cost and partly because although I new what a dry sump system was I wasn't too familiar with them. I feel better about it now as I've managed to find some useful info about them and I don't see any reason that with enough time, more research and practice with the tig I couldn't do my own sump and possibly even the tank, with regards to a pump I think for my needs a 3 stage would be more than enough, 2 scavenge, 1 pressure. The M60 already has an external filter housing so should lend itself quite nicely, although as the feed/exit pass through the current sump I'd have to look at a suitable oil entry.

I've seen that link you put up in my searches, very sweet looking sumps but no prices!

I found another dedicated kit, in the states again, but at just under $4k for the kit and sump its waaaaaay out my league:

http://store.vacmotorsports.com/vac-...kit-p1877.aspx

Its going to have to be research, research, more research, DIY & Fleebay

When I get a few spare mins I'l get the crane out again and try the lump in the frame with no sump/alternator and see how it looks, and I'l post the piccies up.

Bruce