Age-related conundrum

[chris_calcite]

Thanks you two that clears up a lot! It's just I too am thinking of going the Zetec route - building the car is a lot of work to end up with a Pinto engine (and yes, I know why the book car has a Pinto Chris). I'm assuming with an engine from another source you haven't enough 'points' to get the donor reg? So is there any way of avoiding the Q-plate apart from the old dodge of putting the donor engine in, doing SVA & reg, then changing the engine? Would I even want to avoid a Q-plate? What are other folks doing about this?

Chris

[CAD Monkey]

Originally Posted by chris_calcite

Thanks you two that clears up a lot! It's just I too am thinking of going the Zetec route - building the car is a lot of work to end up with a Pinto engine (and yes, I know why the book car has a Pinto Chris). I'm assuming with an engine from another source you haven't enough 'points' to get the donor reg? So is there any way of avoiding the Q-plate apart from the old dodge of putting the donor engine in, doing SVA & reg, then changing the engine? Would I even want to avoid a Q-plate? What are other folks doing about this?

Chris

I believe that there may still be sufficient points to get an age-related plate, even if you don't use the engine, you've still got lots to use from the donor - but tbh the Q-Plate thing doesn't bother me with this one - I've never got enough cash for a private plate anyway!!

I've had a few cars on a Q plate, it doesn't bother me at all, the car still drives the same!

There may be some impact on re-sale value, age related plate cars seem to be easier to sell. I think you might struggle to get an age related plate using a different engine.

Changing the engine post SVA seems to be a popular thing to do, particularly for a swap to a bike engine.

In the end I supose it depends on wether you want the hassle of doing the engine install twice.

Cheers

Chris

[MightyMouth]

As I understand it there is only one reason to avoid a Q plate and that is because You would want a vanity plate of some kind, otherwise it is smarter to have a Q plate though there is still a perceived stigma about it.

[snapper]

You will have to prove engine age and meet the emmision requirements of that engine for SVA and any current MOT's. If the engine is after G reg then you will need a Cat, fuel injection and ECU with Lambda sensor.
I am fitting a Pinto and will have to meet pinto emmisions from 1985 on that car for evermore.

[axle]

I had this confusion as how to retain the donor car reg. After consultation with DVLA I was told if I use the engine & gearbox of the donner car with a brand new chasiss ( even home made, with the proof). Then I would qualify for an age related plate, the V5 document will act as a proof of your donner car major parts.
Hope this is of some help!!!!!!!!!!!!

[colt_mivec]

I would guess that my build will be a Q plate then if im using new pars and a bike engine

[macdave69]

Originally Posted by colt_mivec

I would guess that my build will be a Q plate then if im using new pars and a bike engine

not exactly.
In our case Nottingham DVLA were prepared to issue an age related plate but in the end, the fact that my engine had a german log book was the only reason for a Q.

[colt_mivec]

So do i need the logbook for the bike then.

Im only buying the engine and its been a CAT B spares only write off

[snapper]

If you are using all new parts and just one proven reconditioned part (Robin Hood just painted it and said it was reconed) then you can have a brand new current year (08) number. The Robin Hood SuperSpec achieved this with a new Rover engine a Ford MT75 box a recon Sierra rear end and Sierra front suspension and some dodgy steering rack. The new owners are a little are a lot better.
On the DVLA buildup report application form it asks about the origins of the Chassis/body shell. Axle, Transmission, Steering assembly, engine and front and back suspension.
The chassis/body will be new, the axle, steering assembly will be from the donor, the suspension back and front will be new, the axles will be from the donor. If you go bike then both engine and transmission are one.

You may get an age related but i belive that on a Q you will get a better emmisions allowance than on the engine age.