Enough is enough

[Bonzo]

Nice to know that us forum members are seen to be a bunch of free loaders.

The latest version of Vbulliten hardly breaks the bank at $240 odd dollars.

Small beer in the context of the profits made from the sale of the book !?

[twinturbo]

I am a member of the forum. It's provided FOC so I am classed the same as every other person here, i am using haynes generosity and I have had more info, fun, conversation from the forum than the cost of the book many times over.

We can't knock the person who has a day job to look after what he is paid to do. ( i know I provide support for a large institution and some things have to give)

The forum was provided free, maintained free to all users, many have not purchased the book.

Support admin otherwise it's "thanks for all the fish" time as that's the easy option.


TT

[twinturbo]

$240 still has to go through process, finance teams can be slow.

the implementation. " do it once, do it right "


TT

[alga]

I have a few comments. Obviously, this forum is not the first priority for the Haynes admins. We have to live with that. The way they dealt with the spam problem indicates that they didn't have more than about 1 hour to spend on the forum during the two months we are having this problem (if we discout the possibility that they are grossly incompetent).

Personally, I find it strange that commercial forum software was chosen when the Open Source alternatives are way more flexible, easy to use and secure.

Lastly, running a forum site costs peanuts, contrary to what the locostbuilders owner would like everyone to think.

TT, if I gave you a list of suspicious accounts, would you be able to remove them? It's obvious which ones are spam when looking at them -- home page URLs in Ukraine or Poland, ICQ numbers set, registered this autumn, gibberish location and interests, last seen on the day they registered. (e.g., http://www.haynes.co.uk/forums/member.php?u=3984, http://www.haynes.co.uk/forums/member.php?u=6248 and http://www.haynes.co.uk/forums/member.php?u=5078). I suppose I could spider the user list and put it into a spreadsheet. That would make filtering fake users not very hard.

[twinturbo]

Hi Albert,

I can give it a go, although it may lead to genuine readers being banned.

The backend ( as I see it ) does not allow sorting by registration date which is a pain.

There maiy have been a reason for having to use VB, many companies won't let OpenSource anywhere near production system.

TT

[AshG]

if you actually read many (not all) open source licence agreements hidden in the small print it says that it is free for personal use but organisations must pay.

[robo]

I dont want to start a blame fest but we are where we are and the forum is still suffering .Why cant the last 5000 members just be deleted? If the date order thing wont work what about all the stupid name combos, they stand out like a sore thumb.

Bob

[alga]

Originally Posted by AshG

if you actually read many (not all) open source licence agreements hidden in the small print it says that it is free for personal use but organisations must pay.

Ash, in fact licences that do that do not fall under the common definitions of open source licences.

http://opensource.org/osd -- note items 5 and 6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_...are_Guidelines

Albertas