Ignition relay

[twinturbo]

Black and Yellow should not be grounded.

RED feed the ignition switch from the battery fused link.

Black + yellow ( position 2 - engine run) Feeds some fuses and the ingnition relay. This is designated circuit 15-x ( x being sub-circuit numbers )

Don't confuse ignition with starting they are two seperate circuits

Starting is circuit 50-x Which is black and Blue from the ignition switch to the inhibit/anti-theft relay and then black and blue to solder joint S-1039 which acording to the data is near the rear WashWipe motor loom where it becomes black and red untill the starter motor.

TT

[geeman]

Originally Posted by twinturbo

Black and Yellow should not be grounded.

RED feed the ignition switch from the battery fused link.

Black + yellow ( position 2 - engine run) Feeds some fuses and the ingnition relay. This is designated circuit 15-x ( x being sub-circuit numbers )

Don't confuse ignition with starting they are two seperate circuits

Starting is circuit 50-x Which is black and Blue from the ignition switch to the inhibit/anti-theft relay and then black and blue to solder joint S-1039 which acording to the data is near the rear WashWipe motor loom where it becomes black and red untill the starter motor.

TT

how do you kill the engine then? i thought you just remove +v from black yellow, thats what it looked like to me?

also when you switch the key off, what happens to black/yellow then?

[twinturbo]

When you switch the ignition switch off the +12V supply on the Black and Yellow is switched off but it's not grounded.

TT

[geeman]

Originally Posted by twinturbo

When you switch the ignition switch off the +12V supply on the Black and Yellow is switched off but it's not grounded.

TT

ok, goood, thats what ive done. Now, its rturning over fully but not starting, the black/yellow is correct as when i put it on, theres 12v at pin 10 of the hybrid ignition module. ALso, in the auto trans relay did you say to short pins 86 and 87, as ive also shorted it to pin 30 on the relay to connect it to the starter solenoid?

[twinturbo]

One Caviat..

On some of the injection engines, like the 2.9. A circuit ( 50-7 on the 2.9 ) is fed from the starter circuit during crank. In that case it goes to the TFi module and alters the timing advance to make the eninge start easier.

But on the 1.8 Carbed CVH it's not present.

TT

[geeman]

Originally Posted by twinturbo

One Caviat..

On some of the injection engines, like the 2.9. A circuit ( 50-7 on the 2.9 ) is fed from the starter circuit during crank. In that case it goes to the TFi module and alters the timing advance to make the eninge start easier.

But on the 1.8 Carbed CVH it's not present.

TT

hmmm.. ok, i also remembered yesterday you mentionted the 4,6, and 8 pin pulgs, i have nowhere to connect the 8 pin one to?

[twinturbo]

8 pin is not used on the Early 1.8CVH loom from what I can see , if you Dont have realy XI then the 8 pin will not be in use.

TT

[twinturbo]

I would leave pin 30 Disconected on the Inhibit relay. It should be redundant with 86 & 87 Joined.

TT

[geeman]

[quote=twinturbo;33353]I would leave pin 30 Disconected on the Inhibit relay. It should be redundant with 86 & 87 Joined.

TT[/QUOT ,
If i left pin 30 disconnected, what does the blue/black wire form the ignition switch go, as ive connected pin 30 to the blue/black wire? i think thats wrong now that you explain it to me.

Also REALLY THANKS FOR THE HELP!!!!!